recruiting way this would happen Topic

Unbelievable, I have 18k invested and an accepted freshman start, playing time and yet I am losing this guy to D!AA teams

Simply put this would not happen at all in the real world.. And yes, i am aware this isnt real, just saying this is really rediculous..
10/13/2012 8:38 AM
Distance advantage?
10/13/2012 8:59 AM
hes at NAVY so its fairly local.
10/13/2012 10:31 AM
I would find it really inconcievable that distance, prestige ect, would have such a profound inpact on this recruit. Bottom line is a D1A school offers you a scholarship, spends a significant amount of money to recruit you, you go to the D1A school over the D1AA school all day, 10 out of 10 times. PERIOD. Every CV I offer, this guy accepts and yet he is red to me..and losing to a D1AA teams stings terribly.
10/13/2012 10:34 AM
It's 100% a numbers game. It takes into account prestige, recruiting effort (not money spent), etc, and spits out a number. Highest number wins. This isn't real life.

How for away is the recruit from you?
10/13/2012 11:59 AM
it's your 1st season at Navy -- the coaches at W&M and Hampton have very successful programs and have been there for a long time -- prestige wins this time.

you'll have more $'s next season with a bowl game or 2 under your conferences belt.

you're 333 miles away (thanks yatzr's tool) and W&M is 250 and Hampton is 264
10/13/2012 12:39 PM
my question is when did you start recruiting him. 18K isn't that much for a DI recruit so if you started recruiting him late it's not going to make a huge impact without your own prestige being higher.
10/13/2012 12:52 PM
My humble observation - two 1AA schools to battle over a good 1AA OL - they could be at 40K-50K in by now. even a 1A at 18K would not be in the running - the fact that the recruit is taking CV from you means you are not out, another 1AA wouldn't even get a visit. They both probably also have FR start + PT.
10/13/2012 1:01 PM
@glaity- I disagree with a few things here. This isn't a prestige issue....this is a $$$ issue...but I will get to that in a second. Your last line is misleading as far as recruiting goes. There is pretty much no difference between 181 miles and 360 miles when it comes to a "battle" at any level. I don't have exact numbers in front of me, but I know it's a minimum of $800 for a CV at 0 miles, and it's $1044 at 360 miles. I believe it's around 1k for 181 miles. So for every CV between 181-360, he loses likely a maximum of $44 per CV.

Since our OP says he's 18kish in, he likely has 17 CV's or so in with his scouts, starts, etc. So far he's given ground of about $748 if that's the case.

$748 is not why he's losing this battle.

He's losing the battle because this guy is a monster for D1aa and should have been picked up already by a D1a school. He has good Ath, perfect Str, very good block, awesome GI, and slightly average Tech. If he got overlooked a bit, I can easily see these two being 50k+ into him and maybe even have 75% of their rolls into this guy.

10/13/2012 2:25 PM
Princess Bride: "Inconceivable" !   
10/13/2012 2:57 PM
Here is another one.. against a simmy I have spent over 15k. I have a HUGE distant advantage and yes I am aware that doesnt matter with a simmy.. I am just saying it for the sakes of saying..

I knocked off the other 3 simmy's been on this recruit since go on recruiting yet I am losing.. INSANE
10/13/2012 6:21 PM
again, that's not a ton for DI, even with it being a sim.
i understand the frustration but it's not like you're 24K into him with starts and PT promised.
10/13/2012 6:29 PM
Been seeing a lot of people lately at D1 that have no idea how recruiting works.
10/13/2012 7:02 PM
Agree with cochran this time.  And a lot of us who think they know have been getting burned on some recruits as well. 
10/13/2012 7:49 PM
a lot of it has to do with either not being used to the certain level or issues with not understanding that X amount of $$$ doesn't guarantee a recruiting win.
coaches are so used to vision that once it's not present anymore they go a little nuts.

besides Husker. did you learn nothing from when we battled over the QB recruit in Rockne?
he was right in your backyard for A&M and i was recruiting him from Georgia, i spent less money on him than you did, i didn't promise any starts nor PT and i ended up red shirting him.

and no i'm not trying to brag by bringing up the QB. simply illustrating a point. money spent isn't always the tell all in recruiting.

10/13/2012 8:23 PM (edited)
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