i just switched my last press team to man here, on account of the problems with the press... so i disagree. my question is this - if the press is too strong - why don't either of you play it? any time i felt something was too strong, i switched, and tried to prove it/use it myself. sometimes it worked, other times it hasn't, but its hard to tell until you try it yourself, what the limitations are and how severely they kick in.