I'm just jawing a little, I know the Gilbert / Wade combo is flawed, but so was the Howard/ Pierce / Kobe combo that made the ODL finals. Like I said before this team will allow be to put some of my theories in practice. I'm sure it will teach me even more about the sim engine and I'll make adjustments for the next season. I do think there are many different ways to create a winner and clearly the sim has some variation, even if the exact same teams played multiple seasons, I highly doubt the exact same results would ever be duplicated. And like I said before the cookie cutter approach is something I'm not down with, if I can't try something unique then I'm bored and there is no point. I will give you credit Vance, Wilt / Kobe is not something that many would likely try, so your approach looks pretty unique as well.