Socialism Experiment Topic

That's unfortunate.
3/4/2013 4:20 PM
Not really. He's a pretty cool kid.
3/4/2013 4:22 PM
Slays the broads.
3/4/2013 4:23 PM
Maybe I'm an ******* for making fun of you for talking out of your *** when you argue about **** you don't understand, but I'm a good dad.
3/4/2013 4:23 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 3:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 3:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 3:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 3:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 3:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 2:59:00 PM (view original):
I know you don't understand this stuff, mike, so I'll try to be clear. But don't blame me if you don't understand it again.

Our economy is slow.
The fed govt is running a deficit.
The fed govt is paying $85 for a $4 hammer. That's wasteful. That money could and should be put to use in a better way and it would be better if they bought one $4 hammer and put the rest towards infrastructure or medicare or defense.
But if the alternative to buying that $85 hammer is that they don't spend the $85 dollars at all, it's better if they buy the hammer.

Since the "solution" is to spend, why doesn't the govt lease all vacant buildings?

Or give businesses 10% of last year's revenue for further investment?

Or simply write each American a 10K check for spending?

Surely all of the above is a better solution than overpaying for a hammer, right?

All of those things are stimulative. None are viable.
Yet overpaying for a hammer is viable?

Perhaps, by paying the market price for a hammer, the govt could do something more constructive, maybe a variation of the listed things, with the excess money.
1) How many hammers do you think the government is buying?

2) Yeah. I've said that. Several times.
1.  No idea.  That was just the example used for wasteful govt spending.   Which you said was a good thing.

2.  So, if he govt could, and should, do something more constructive than overpaying for items, why is overpaying for items a good thing?
If the alternative is to not spend the money (cut the deficit) it's better to spend it when the economy is suffering from lack of demand. Even on wasteful ****.

Tax cuts and spending it on less wasteful things are preferable options.
3/4/2013 4:26 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:24:00 PM (view original):
Maybe I'm an ******* for making fun of you for talking out of your *** when you argue about **** you don't understand, but I'm a good dad.
Unlikely.    The internet usually amplifies a personality.    You're a 10 on the ******* scale, I doubt anyone would disagree, so you're probably an 8 in the real world.  8 on the ******* scale isn't conducive to good parenting.
3/4/2013 4:30 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 4:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:24:00 PM (view original):
Maybe I'm an ******* for making fun of you for talking out of your *** when you argue about **** you don't understand, but I'm a good dad.
Unlikely.    The internet usually amplifies a personality.    You're a 10 on the ******* scale, I doubt anyone would disagree, so you're probably an 8 in the real world.  8 on the ******* scale isn't conducive to good parenting.
You're just ****** because I revealed your total ignorance.
3/4/2013 4:40 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 3:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 3:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 3:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 3:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 3:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 2:59:00 PM (view original):
I know you don't understand this stuff, mike, so I'll try to be clear. But don't blame me if you don't understand it again.

Our economy is slow.
The fed govt is running a deficit.
The fed govt is paying $85 for a $4 hammer. That's wasteful. That money could and should be put to use in a better way and it would be better if they bought one $4 hammer and put the rest towards infrastructure or medicare or defense.
But if the alternative to buying that $85 hammer is that they don't spend the $85 dollars at all, it's better if they buy the hammer.

Since the "solution" is to spend, why doesn't the govt lease all vacant buildings?

Or give businesses 10% of last year's revenue for further investment?

Or simply write each American a 10K check for spending?

Surely all of the above is a better solution than overpaying for a hammer, right?

All of those things are stimulative. None are viable.
Yet overpaying for a hammer is viable?

Perhaps, by paying the market price for a hammer, the govt could do something more constructive, maybe a variation of the listed things, with the excess money.
1) How many hammers do you think the government is buying?

2) Yeah. I've said that. Several times.
1.  No idea.  That was just the example used for wasteful govt spending.   Which you said was a good thing.

2.  So, if he govt could, and should, do something more constructive than overpaying for items, why is overpaying for items a good thing?
If the alternative is to not spend the money (cut the deficit) it's better to spend it when the economy is suffering from lack of demand. Even on wasteful ****.

Tax cuts and spending it on less wasteful things are preferable options.
I'll disagree and explain why.

Even though I believe our government has limitless funds(they just raise the debt ceiling and don't bother with budgets), wasteful spending isn't productive as they need the "appearance" of caring about spending.  That $85 will get spent.   They can buy one hammer and benefit one company or they can buy a hammer, a toilet seat, a set of brakes, a folding chair, etc, etc, and provide revenue to several companies. 

IIRC, the libs got their panties in a big ol' wad because Bush's cronies at Halliburton made of fortune off the Gulf War.  Well, the govt was just putting money into the economy, right?
3/4/2013 4:40 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 4:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:24:00 PM (view original):
Maybe I'm an ******* for making fun of you for talking out of your *** when you argue about **** you don't understand, but I'm a good dad.
Unlikely.    The internet usually amplifies a personality.    You're a 10 on the ******* scale, I doubt anyone would disagree, so you're probably an 8 in the real world.  8 on the ******* scale isn't conducive to good parenting.
You're just ****** because I revealed your total ignorance.
Pretty sure I revealed it.   I've already explained why and that I'm quite sure it will happen again.

But that really has nothing to do with the likelihood of you being a total wreck as a parent.
3/4/2013 4:41 PM
What???

I don't care how the $85, as long as it gets spent. Because the alternative is the money sitting still in a savings account somewhere.
3/4/2013 4:42 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 4:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:24:00 PM (view original):
Maybe I'm an ******* for making fun of you for talking out of your *** when you argue about **** you don't understand, but I'm a good dad.
Unlikely.    The internet usually amplifies a personality.    You're a 10 on the ******* scale, I doubt anyone would disagree, so you're probably an 8 in the real world.  8 on the ******* scale isn't conducive to good parenting.
You're just ****** because I revealed your total ignorance.
Pretty sure I revealed it.   I've already explained why and that I'm quite sure it will happen again.

But that really has nothing to do with the likelihood of you being a total wreck as a parent.
You have no idea and you're really leaving the ******* line in the dust here. 
3/4/2013 4:43 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 4:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:24:00 PM (view original):
Maybe I'm an ******* for making fun of you for talking out of your *** when you argue about **** you don't understand, but I'm a good dad.
Unlikely.    The internet usually amplifies a personality.    You're a 10 on the ******* scale, I doubt anyone would disagree, so you're probably an 8 in the real world.  8 on the ******* scale isn't conducive to good parenting.
You're just ****** because I revealed your total ignorance.
Pretty sure I revealed it.   I've already explained why and that I'm quite sure it will happen again.

But that really has nothing to do with the likelihood of you being a total wreck as a parent.
You have no idea and you're really leaving the ******* line in the dust here. 
I have no idea that ******** make poor parents?   Really?   How do you know that?
3/4/2013 5:01 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:42:00 PM (view original):
What???

I don't care how the $85, as long as it gets spent. Because the alternative is the money sitting still in a savings account somewhere.
What part of "That $85 will get spent" confused you?

We've agreed that our govt wastes money.   Do you think the govt "saves" money somewhere?

They can spend it well and benefit several or they can overspend on one item and benefit one.    And, to you, it makes no difference because the money was spent.  That's stupid.
3/4/2013 5:04 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:42:00 PM (view original):
What???

I don't care how the $85, as long as it gets spent. Because the alternative is the money sitting still in a savings account somewhere.
What part of "That $85 will get spent" confused you?

We've agreed that our govt wastes money.   Do you think the govt "saves" money somewhere?

They can spend it well and benefit several or they can overspend on one item and benefit one.    And, to you, it makes no difference because the money was spent.  That's stupid.
Are you dense?

How many times do I have to say that I'd prefer that they spent it better?

Maybe if I type it slower?

IF    THE    ALTERNATIVE    IS     THAT    THE  MONEY    DOESN'T     GET    SPENT     (CUTTING    THE    DEFICIT),     IT'S     BETTER    TO     SPEND    IT    WHEN    DEMAND    IS    DEPRESSED,     EVEN     IF      IT'S      WASTEFUL.
3/4/2013 5:12 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 5:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/4/2013 4:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/4/2013 4:24:00 PM (view original):
Maybe I'm an ******* for making fun of you for talking out of your *** when you argue about **** you don't understand, but I'm a good dad.
Unlikely.    The internet usually amplifies a personality.    You're a 10 on the ******* scale, I doubt anyone would disagree, so you're probably an 8 in the real world.  8 on the ******* scale isn't conducive to good parenting.
You're just ****** because I revealed your total ignorance.
Pretty sure I revealed it.   I've already explained why and that I'm quite sure it will happen again.

But that really has nothing to do with the likelihood of you being a total wreck as a parent.
You have no idea and you're really leaving the ******* line in the dust here. 
I have no idea that ******** make poor parents?   Really?   How do you know that?
You have no idea if I'm an ******* in real life. Maybe you just bring the ******* out in me?

Maybe I don't hang around idiots in real life? 
3/4/2013 5:13 PM
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