Posted by rednation58 on 3/19/2013 2:30:00 PM (view original):
the "not in your league" comment I would think is the definite no, but the "do you believe in miracles" comment I know I've signed players with that message. Maybe they were all pulldowns as I pulldown a lot so I can't really say but I know I've signed players with the "do you believe in miracles" comment.
the thing is, phone calls are supposed to be definitive. a phone call is supposed to reflect, you can recruit me now, later, or never - and theres supposed to be no ifs ands or buts. for years, there were no exceptions to that rule, and i cant think of anyone saying different (until today) in the new engine, either, at least with initial phone calls.
now dont get me wrong - im not saying you or the other guy are mistaken. its always possible with so few examples, but i always take the approach of, if someone has a different experience than you, try to understand why, not assume they are wrong (it got me REALLY far when i was really into things, to do so). i just am interpreting these data points a little differently. i dont think there is suddenly a new class of phone call response - a "maybe" response, or that this message is somehow different than the other NO messages. i would be much more inclined to believe there is a bug causing NO responses to be given inappropriately - there was even a thread just a thread today or yesterday, where a guy got a NO after a pulled scholarship and was told he could still recruit the guy (and that wasnt the first time, although the previous time, im not sure CS said the guy could still be recruiting). so what im saying is, if people are going to look to recruit guys after a NO, questioning the validity of the NO, i would absolutely look at all NOs, not just this one - and i would definitely still consider this message a NO. i could be wrong, and there could just be a bug with this message - but id be really surprised, as a programmer and as a long time player, if that was the case. much more likely there is some issue affecting these messages, its really of the vein of problems weve seen, with guys in your division not being recruitable and such, it seems to me.