# Hall of Fame Candidate? Topic

Truthfully, one could argue that having a runner on when he batted was detrimental to his game.
3/25/2013 10:09 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/25/2013 8:25:00 AM (view original):

How are total bases calculated?    I've always thought it was start at home and, if you get a single, you get one total base.   A double is two, etc, etc.

How is a leadoff single and a SB different than a double?

well then we would have to figure out how to only add in the bases he stole after getting on base when nobody else was on. Then in the true tradition of sabermetrical thingamajig we would hae to make up a number in our heads that they will be equivilent to (somewhere between 0.8 and 1.26 sounds good because it is close enough to one that nobody can prove it is wrong) that we can justify if we are a big time sports writer so we can prove to everyone that if you score more runs than you give up you will win more often than you will loose.
3/25/2013 10:21 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/25/2013 10:09:00 AM (view original):
Truthfully, one could argue that having a runner on when he batted was detrimental to his game.
I like this one
3/25/2013 10:22 AM
3/25/2013 10:23 AM
If you wanted to ballpark it, it seems the average OBP in most worlds is around .330.    It would probably be safe to assume this player batted with no one on about 2/3 of the time, no?
3/25/2013 10:25 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/25/2013 10:23:00 AM (view original):
No he makes me think and that makes my brain hurt.
3/25/2013 10:34 AM
Well, the general idea is that a player who steals bases like that produces run more like a .900 OPS than a .700 OPS.
3/25/2013 10:37 AM
bet he used a number between 0.8 and 1.26 at least once in that equation.
3/25/2013 10:40 AM
In his first 4 years, he led his team in RC between 117 and 158.
3/25/2013 10:42 AM
Well, you're preaching to the choir about the random numbers used to justify an "advanced metric" but runs created is a pretty solid stat.    And Posada created a lot of them despite pedestrian stats with the exception of SB.
3/25/2013 10:45 AM
He wouldn't make the Cardinals HOF.
3/25/2013 11:50 AM
I have a similar candidate I have been pushing for in my world:   Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Alex Solano
H
e has the benefit of being an adequate CF during his prime and then a GG LF/1B near the end of his career.  His hitting stats look eerily similar to Posada's, but with his extra defensive skills, didn't he do enough?
His voting peak has been 13 but was only able to get 9 votes this season.  In all of my worlds, it has seemed a challenge to try to get anyone elected who is not either a stud SP or a 600+ HR slugger.
3/25/2013 1:07 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 3/25/2013 10:25:00 AM (view original):
If you wanted to ballpark it, it seems the average OBP in most worlds is around .330.    It would probably be safe to assume this player batted with no one on about 2/3 of the time, no?
Or higher, considering that as leadoff hitter, he was GUARANTEED to come up with nobody on base to start the game.

If nobody was on for his first plate appearance, and nobody was in front of him for 2 of his 3 other plate appearances per game (approximately the average .330 OBP), then in reality, he comes up with nobody on base on front of him about 75% of time.
3/25/2013 3:26 PM
HOF is tougher than real life with the 5 votes. I had a SS who won a GG and hit .262 and 517 HR's not get in because his OB% was too low at .306 making his OPS only .850. Real world rules dont apply in HBD
3/25/2013 4:19 PM
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