DOMA & Prop 8 Topic

Give your opinion on whether or not it's harmless and I'll answer all your questions. I'm not on trial, this is a discussion not a deposition.
7/10/2013 11:27 AM
I don't want to distract you with my opinion, since my opinion is irrelevant to your opinions.

Please answer the question.
7/10/2013 11:28 AM
Your opinion is relevant to the discussion. Do you think that watching child porn is harmless?

I answered your question. Answer mine.
7/10/2013 11:37 AM
When the discussion is about your beliefs and opinions (which is what this discussion is about), my beliefs and opinions are irrelevant.

Now please answer the question.
7/10/2013 11:50 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 11:24:00 AM (view original):
You can't say that you're agreeing with me, since I have not given my opinion about child porn.  But that's besides the point.

OK, so we've established that you believe that watching child porn in the privacy of your own house:

a)  Makes the person happy
b)  Doesn't affect anybody else
c)  Doesn''t force anybody else to do it
d)  Is harmless.

Is that correct?
In case you forgot the question.
7/10/2013 11:50 AM
Your opinion is relevant to this discussion. Do you think watching child porn is harmless?
7/10/2013 11:52 AM
I don't think tec's opinion is relevant.   We're trying to determine if you believe any personal freedom should be restricted.    It seems you have no moral compass.   If that's the case, I don't think there's any point in discussing any aspect of society with you.
7/10/2013 11:54 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 11:50:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 11:24:00 AM (view original):
You can't say that you're agreeing with me, since I have not given my opinion about child porn.  But that's besides the point.

OK, so we've established that you believe that watching child porn in the privacy of your own house:

a)  Makes the person happy
b)  Doesn't affect anybody else
c)  Doesn''t force anybody else to do it
d)  Is harmless.

Is that correct?
In case you forgot the question.
This is my answer: 

Because the production of child porn is so harmful, everything associated with child porn, including simple possession, needs to be illegal. Regardless of whether or not simply watching it is harmless. 

Can the same be said about gay marriage? Is there any aspect of gay marriage that is at all harmful? If not, child porn is completely irrelevant.
7/10/2013 12:03 PM
Do you think anyone on earth thinks SSM could have a negative impact?   If so, why is their opinion less valuable than your opinion on watching child porn?
7/10/2013 12:27 PM
If they do, I welcome them to articulate the harm. No one here has.
7/10/2013 12:35 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 12:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 11:50:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 11:24:00 AM (view original):
You can't say that you're agreeing with me, since I have not given my opinion about child porn.  But that's besides the point.

OK, so we've established that you believe that watching child porn in the privacy of your own house:

a)  Makes the person happy
b)  Doesn't affect anybody else
c)  Doesn''t force anybody else to do it
d)  Is harmless.

Is that correct?
In case you forgot the question.
This is my answer: 

Because the production of child porn is so harmful, everything associated with child porn, including simple possession, needs to be illegal. Regardless of whether or not simply watching it is harmless. 

Can the same be said about gay marriage? Is there any aspect of gay marriage that is at all harmful? If not, child porn is completely irrelevant.
So there is additional criteria for determining whether or not something should be allowed that goes beyond:

a)  Makes the person happy
b)  Doesn't affect anybody else
c)  Doesn''t force anybody else to do it
d)  Is harmless.

What is the additional criteria? 
7/10/2013 12:46 PM
Child porn is harmful. Gay marriage isn't. That's the difference.
7/10/2013 1:00 PM
You already said that watching child porn was harmless.  Now you're saying that watching child porn is harmful.

Which is it?
7/10/2013 1:01 PM
Harmful.

Do you disagree?
7/10/2013 1:29 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 1:00:00 PM (view original):
Child porn is harmful. Gay marriage isn't. That's the difference.
Hold on a sec.

Watching free child porn meets your big 3.

1.  Makes people happy(although these people may be scum)
2.  More personal freedom(free to watch what makes you happy)
3.  Doesn't hurt anyone else(as it's already been made and was not purchased)

WTF?
7/10/2013 2:04 PM
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