AMAZIN METS MESMERIZING THREAD---NEW THREAD! Topic

I agree that Torre deserves some of the credit for Steinbrenner calming down, age is as much of a cause, as is failing health and then the World Series' victories were somehow more satisfying to him than those of the '70s because the team seemed so dominant. 

Even so, he must been on prozac or something - remember how many managers he fired in the 70s and how many times ? 

Torre was a good, maybe even great manager - though of course he had the horses, but he also knew how to manage them and not screw it up - up through maybe 2000 at the latest though in my view. I think even the 2001 World Series there are some glitches - giving away game 6 down only 4 runs for example, or not using Mendoza for an out or two in the 9th of game 7 when he had been unhittable up to that point in the Series and this way you had that much more from Rivera if needed or if Mendoza ran into trouble. 

But after that point he engaged in what is known as magical thinking - relying on the old reliables even when it was clear they weren't the same - thinking Sojo would get the key heroic hit because he had at other times years before, playing Bernie instead of Lofton in Center when both were fading, etc. Loyalty is a good thing, but it does not win games or pennants. Pitching Kevin Brown in ..well you know, 

As for Showalter, it is quite possible that he is a more talented manager. But he is especially good with young teams and we haven't seen him with a mostly veteran team and a winner. He is also boring and my mother hates how he sits sorts of on the side of his thigh in the dugout and our family that is a serious detriment. 


5/23/2013 12:04 PM
5/23/2013 3:45 PM

METS-BRAVOS CALLED AFTER 9, TIED 5-5

5/25/2013 6:32 AM
DUE TO LACK OF INTEREST?!?!?!?!!!
5/25/2013 7:26 AM
ACID RAIN, MAN
5/25/2013 7:36 AM
SUSPENDED AFTER AFTER 8 INN.5-5, WILL RESUME AT 6PM BEFORE SCHEDULED GAME- GEE VS. MINOR

IKE DAVIS THE FLY SWATTER- O-4, 4K'S --.146 9 RBI. THROW A PITCHER TO CLEAN-UP SPOT TERRY, THEY'D HAVE AT LEAST 9 RBI'S IN 2 MONTHS

HEFNER PITCHED WELL, THEN COLLINS WENT LARUSSA USING 3 PITCHERS IN 2IP WITH THE NINTH AND POSSIBLY EXTRAS AHEAD

MURPHY RED HOT,3 MORE HITS(.313)  BUCK-HR(11)
5/25/2013 10:35 AM

METS LOSE SUSPENDED GAME, 7-5+ REG,SCHEDULED GAME 6-0

MINOR DOMINATED ON MOUND AND HIT A HOMER

IKE DAVIS,0-1(K) AS PH. .144AVG., 0- FOR LAST 26 WITH RISP

NO, HE'S NOT KILLING US

5/26/2013 6:59 AM
Play Minor at 1B when he is not pitching.
5/26/2013 7:55 AM
METS BEAT BRAVES, 4-2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

MARCUM WAS VERY GOOD-7IP 2R  12K'S(ND)  DUDA-3 HITS, HR(9)

IKE DAVIS WITH 2 HITS!1 UP TO .158 HAS THE SURGE STARTED BY JUNE? SAVE US IKE!

HOME AND HOME VS. SKANKS STARTS MONDAY. HUGHES VS. NIESE(NEEDS GOOD START, BEEN STRUGGLING EARLY IN GAMES)
5/27/2013 5:25 AM
IKE GOT A HIT IN THE FIRST AB I SAW ALL YEAR!!

1.000 WITH 2 RBI WHEN I WATCH!!!
5/27/2013 7:18 AM

METS BEAT SKANKEES, 2-1 AT CITI FIELD!

SCORELESS UNTIL THE 6TH, NIESE+ HUGHES PITCHED WELL. GARDNER ROBBED MURPHY OF HOMER

WRIGHT HIT A BOMB(7TH). MURPHY GW HIT

LYON-W. PARNELL-SV

KURODA VS. HARVEY TONIGHT

5/28/2013 5:39 AM
METS BEAT SKANKS AGAIN, 2-1 WITH RALLY IN 9TH OFF MO RIVERA(WHOM GTHE METS HONOURED BEFORE GAME)

KURODA-HARVEY DUEL, HARVEY---8IP, 1 ER, 10 K'S, ND

MURPHY,WRIGHT, DUDA SPARKED RALLY OFF RIVERA

IKE DAVIS 0-3, 2 K'S, 10 OF LAST 14 AB'S ARE K'S------.152 HIT 8TH
5/29/2013 6:02 AM
Mets are filthy cheaters.  
5/29/2013 9:47 AM
I thought that Rivera guy was good?
5/29/2013 9:53 AM
Mets poisoned the Gatorade in the pen.   Filthy cheaters.
5/29/2013 10:39 AM
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