Giving it a shot. Brooklyn ( Nass.Coll) 17
8/2/2013 12:52 PM
I like that this league is filling up quickly!
8/2/2013 1:15 PM
Yes I will take a second for Wilkins if you are offering. I will take that and smile.

All3 and some others it is easy to say oh I got this incredible team but it may suck if the bad season comes up, but with Wilt that is less than a 10% chance. If we don't have a draft that is fine but we need greater equality between the teams. Wilt, Wallace, Nance, Jackson, and Reggie Miller against my starting lineup of Moncrief, Petrovic, Majerle, Duncan, and Rollins. If I got all of the cake seasons of my players it would still suck badly because my team has no balance. My team is begging everyone to go -2 against us since we don't shoot threes at all really.

Everyone on your starting lineup regularly gets drafted in odl and the 52 mil draft and Wilt is always a top 3 pick if not number one. Three of my guys do but only one would get drafted in the first four rounds.
8/2/2013 1:25 PM (edited)

3, 8, 10, 11, 15, 16, 18, 21, 24 Remain on the board.

Counting me, that's 16 teams. I have a message from another interested owner who hasn't signed up yet. 2/3s done guys!

8/2/2013 2:31 PM
Teams 52 mil draft players first round talents
Magic Johnson 1 1
Dwayne Wade 1 1
Paul Pierce 1  
Carlos Boozer 1  
Alonzo Mourning 1  
Norm Nixon    
Eddie Jones 1  
Cedric Ceballos 0  
Maurice Stokes    
Billy Cunningham    
Total GPS: (good player score) 8  
     
     
Shawbigred    
Kevin Johnson 1  
Michael Jordan 1 1
Kevin Durant 1 1
Vern Mikkelson    
Yao Ming 1  
Reggie Theus    
Rolando Blackman    
Larry Johnson    
Antwan Jamison    
Vlade Divac    
GPS 6  
     
Cheno5    
Chauncy Billups 1  
Pete Maravich    
Larry Bird 1 1
Horace Grant 1  
Willis Reed 1  
Ron Harper 1  
Manu Ginobilli 1  
Reggie Lewis    
Derrick Coleman    
Andrew Bogut 1  
GPS 8  
     
Malone9975    
Sidney Moncrief 1  
Drazen Petrovic    
Dominique Wilkins    
Tim Duncan 1 1
Dan Issel    
Baron Davis    
World B. Free    
Dan Majerle 1  
Blake Griffin 1  
Tree Rollins 1  
GPS 6  
     
Gary Payton 1  
Bill Sharman    
Kiki Vandeweghe    
Tom Heinshon    
Bill Russell 1 1
Steve Francis    
Danny Ainge    
Jamaal Mashburn    
Bob Boozer    
Brad Daugherty    
GPS 3  
     
Danscleaners    
John Stockton 1 1
Hal Greer    
Alex English    
Dennis Rodman 1 1
Walt Bellamy    
Rajon Rondo 1  
John Drew    
Don Nelson    
Chris Webber 1  
Rik Smits    
GPS 6  
     
Chris Paul 1 1
Jerry West 1  
Jamaal Wilkes    
Jerry Lucas 1  
Patrick Ewing 1  
Terrell Brandon 1  
Terry Porter 1  
Tayshaun Prince    
LaMarcus Aldridge    
Dave Cowens    
GPS 7  
     
Maurice Cheeks 1  
Jeff Hornacek    
Julius Erving 1 1
James Worthy    
Robert Parrish 1  
Nick Van Exel    
Gilbert Arenas    
Jack Twyman    
Clyde Lovellette    
Dikembe Mutumbo 1  
GPS 5  
     
Malfunction    
Nate Archibald    
Mitch Redmond    
Paul Arzin    
Karl Malone 1 1
Bill Walton 1  
Michael Ray Richardon    
Russell Westbrook    
Peja Stojakovic 1  
Elton Brand 1  
Bill Cartwright    
GPS 5  
     
Mookie Blaylock 1  
Clyde Drexler 1  
Mark Aguirre    
Elvin Hayes    
Kareem Abdul Jabbar 1 1
Sam Cassell    
Dick Van Arsdale    
Sean Elliott    
Paul Silas    
Alvan Adams    
GPS 4  
     
Seapilots    
Isaiah Thomas    
Tracy McGrady 1  
Adrian Dantley    
Dirk Nowitzki 1  
Dwight Howard 1 1
Deron Williams 1  
Jojo White    
Hot Rod Williams    
Anthony Mason 1  
Joe Barry Carroll    
GPS 6  
     
Alvin Robertson    
Oscar Robertson 1 1
Bruce Bowen    
Rasheed Wallace    
David Robinson 1 1
Fat Lever    
Byron Scott    
Richard Jefferson    
David West    
Rony Siekaly    
GPS 4  
     
Logain    
Dave Bing    
Ray Allen 1  
Lebron James 1 1
Buck Williams 1  
Sam Lacey    
Penny Hardaway 1  
Vince Carter 1  
Andre Iguodala 1  
Josh Smith    
Shawn Bradley    
GPS 7  
     
Walt Frazier 1  
Earl Monroe    
Carmelo Anthony    
Kevin Garnett 1 1
Neil Johnston    
Tony Parker    
Austin Carr    
James Posey    
Clifford Robinson    
Kevin Willis    
GPS 3  
     
Rod Strickland    
Sam Jones    
Bernard King    
Chris Bosh    
Shaquille O'Neal 1 1
Lenny Wilkins    
Dee Brown    
Jerome Kersey    
Maurice Lucas    
Jack Sikma    
GPS 2  
     
Jason Kidd 1 1
Joe Dumars 1  
Scottie Pippen 1  
Dave DeBuscherre    
Artis Gilmore 1 1
Kevin Porter 1  
Louie Dampier    
Rashard Lewis    
Harry Gallatin    
Arnie Risen    
     
GPS 7  
jholme44    
Mark Price 1  
Kobe Bryant 1  
David Thompson 1  
Dolph Schayes    
Bob McAdoo 1  
John Lucas    
Derek Harper 1  
Glen Rice 0  
Otis Thorpe    
Mychal Thompson    
     
GPS 5  
eleibowitz    
Tim Hardaway 1  
Paul Westphal    
John Havlicek    
Zach Randolph    
Moses Malone 1 1
Terry Porter 1  
Jerry Stackhouse    
Rick Fox    
Cliff Robinson    
James Edwards    
GPS 4  
     
Gail Goodrich    
Allen Iverson    
Chris Mullin 1  
Kevin McHale 1  
Wes Unseld 1  
Derek Rose 0  
Allan Houston    
Danny Granger 1  
Danny Manning    
Mark Eaton    
GPS 4  
     
all3    
Slater Martin    
Reggie Miller 1  
Rick Barry 0  
A'mare Stoudemaire 1  
Wilt Chamberlin 1 1
Mark Jackson    
John Starks    
Stephen Jackson    
Larry Nance 1  
Ben Wallace 1 1
GPS 7  
     
Bob Cousy    
Hersey Hawkins 1  
Robert Horry    
Bob Pettit    
Bob Lanier 1  
Mike Bibby    
Spud Webb    
Shane Battier    
Shawn Marion 1  
Manute Bol    
GPS 3  
     
coolone_may    
Stephon Marbury    
George Gervin    
Cliff Hagan    
Connie Hawkins 1  
George Mikan    
Kenny Smith    
Jerry Sloan    
Gerald Wallace 1  
Pau Gasol 1  
Johnny Kerr    
GPS 3  
     
Steve Nash 1  
Latrell Sprewell    
Grant Hill 1  
Elgin Baylor    
Nate Thurmond    
Andre Miller    
Steve Smith    
Josh Smith 1  
Shawn Kemp 1  
Ralph Sampson    
GPS 4  
     
Dennis Johnson    
James Harden 1  
Ron Artest (Metta World Peace)    
Charles Barkley 1 1
Hakeem Olajuwon 1 1
Scott Skiles    
Michael Redd 1  
Hedu Terkoglu    
Jermaine O'Neal    
Bill Laimbeer    
GPS 6  
8/2/2013 3:03 PM (edited)
That is a quick ranking by my very own superbly well defined stat.. GPS.. GOOD PLAYER SCORE. Each player that is "usually" drafted in the 52 mil draft league is given a 1. Each player that is a 1st round talent in that league is given another 1.

There are a few other guys that are not bad on some of the teams as well. But it gives a broad overview of the teams.

8/2/2013 2:39 PM
The best team by those rankings is unselected I believe.. all3 and I have powerhouse teams as stated. And many teams are at scores of 3-4.

I do note that this is very unscientific (WIlt should be worth about 5) but I thought it might give the baseball guys some perspective on what a good/bad team is here.

8/2/2013 2:43 PM
Yeah no offense to the commish but I got a pile of crap for my roster I meant to complain earlier lol.  I really can't be in the league with the roster I have...sorry
8/2/2013 3:06 PM
What I could do over this weekend is put together a list of the top 48 at each position.  Then split them into 24 balanced squads.

I will then let masterdebate and another person have those teams put into some form of a randomized group that would allow for no one to know what they are going to get, but have a balanced grouping of players and still leave room to draft two others as well as maybe make sure everyone gets some incredible players, and everyone gets a touch of sim poison too.
8/2/2013 3:08 PM
Interesting take logain.  Likely a half-way fair view on team quality.

Commish:  Once we have 24 guys, are you going to open it up for say 48 hours or so to make roster cuts, trades, etc, then once that time period is closed, post a list of players who are not available to be drafted?

8/2/2013 3:15 PM
Why not tax every team that has over 5 points on my list.. make them cut down to 5.. and throw the rest in the draft pool.. (We could get a little more input on the points above first.. or even develop a better system)

The first round of the draft then would just be for every team under 5 points on the list.

The second round would be for everyone but  have the teams under 5 followed by the teams at 5 (pre-round 1)

This would likely mean that I would cut Vince and Iggy or Penny.. All 3 would probably cut 2 of Amare/Reggie/Nance.. or Big Ben.. 

I think this would get us close to balanced.. and then all hell will break loose after year 1 anyway

8/2/2013 3:30 PM (edited)
Some good players not on teams btw.. Camby and Chandler stick out as the best to me
8/2/2013 3:29 PM
Posted by slymonium on 8/2/2013 3:15:00 PM (view original):
Interesting take logain.  Likely a half-way fair view on team quality.

Commish:  Once we have 24 guys, are you going to open it up for say 48 hours or so to make roster cuts, trades, etc, then once that time period is closed, post a list of players who are not available to be drafted?

This doesn't work for me, my team is really bad.  All I have is Moses and Porter
8/2/2013 3:35 PM
One thing logain...the GPS score should be limited to players typically drafted before round 5 since many players in round 5 and 6 are solid support players.  The GPS should show a player that you can build around that has a skill set that allows a player to be dominant at a given skill.  When you give me 6 points you aren't pointing out that most of the Majerle seasons are crap, Griffin, Rollins, and Moncrief are late round picks that are support players, and I have nothing at the point so I am going to have about 40% assists...hello penalty!

I would love to put together 24 more equally balanced squads that creates basic parity, and then allow the idiosyncratic nature of the theme to take over from there.
8/2/2013 3:46 PM
Posted by eleibowitz on 8/2/2013 3:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by slymonium on 8/2/2013 3:15:00 PM (view original):
Interesting take logain.  Likely a half-way fair view on team quality.

Commish:  Once we have 24 guys, are you going to open it up for say 48 hours or so to make roster cuts, trades, etc, then once that time period is closed, post a list of players who are not available to be drafted?

This doesn't work for me, my team is really bad.  All I have is Moses and Porter
Hey I will give you Duncan, Moncrief, Issel, and Davis for Hondo, Malone, Fox, and Porter...lol
8/2/2013 3:49 PM
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