Fall 2013 Franchise Tournament Topic

Participating Owners:
1 contrarian23 (Cubs)
2 DarthDurron (Giants)

3 thejuice6 (Cardinals)
4 Jdh34 (Yankees)
5 deathdealer (Athletics)

6 zoldab (Mets/Nats/Rockies)
7 Chisock (White Sox)
8 akira_hokuto (Dodgers)
9 crazystengel (Tigers)
10 pmars2001 (Red Sox)
11 buddhagamer (Indians)
12 bheid408 (Twins)
13 finn2030 (Braves
)
14 coachgreat1 (Astros, Royals, D-Backs)
15 mllama54 (Angels, Mariners, Marlins)
16 batandball (Pirates)

BOLD = All 5 rosters entered and verified
10/18/2013 6:37 PM (edited)
I have posted below the eligible team-seasons for each franchise in our league, based on the names used in the WIS database (there are some discrepancies with the names used by www.baseball-reference.com)  If anyone finds any inaccuracies in the lists below, please let me know.

Cubs (contrarian23)
1885-1889 Chicago White Stockings (NL)
1890-1897 Chicago Colts (NL)
1898-1902 Chicago Orphans (NL)
1903-2013 Chicago Cubs (NL)

Giants (DarthDurron)
1885-1957 New York Giants (NL)
1958-2013 San Francisco Giants (NL)

Cardinals (thejuice6)
1885-1891 St. Louis Browns (AA)
1892-1898 St. Louis Browns (NL)
1899 St. Louis Perfectos (NL)
1900-2013 St. Louis Cardinals (NL)

Yankees (Jdh34)
1901-1902 Baltimore Orioles (AL)
1903-1912 New York Highlanders (AL)
1913-2013 New York Yankees (AL)

Athletics (deathdealer)
1901-1954 Philadelphia Athletics (AL)
1955-1967 Kansas City Athletics (AL)
1968-2013 Oakland Athletics (AL)

Mets/Nats/Rockies (zoldab)
1962-2013 New York Mets (NL)
1969-2004 Montreal Expos (NL)
2005-2013 Washington Nationals (NL)
1993-2013 Colorado Rockies (NL)

White Sox (Chisock)
1901-2013 Chicago White Sox (AL)

Dodgers (akira_hokuto)
1885-1886 Brooklyn Grays (AA)
1887 Brooklyn Dodgers (AA)
1888-1889 Brooklyn Bridegrooms (AA)
1890-1898 Brooklyn Bridegrooms (NL)
1899-1910 Brooklyn Superbas (NL)
1911-1915 Brooklyn Dodgers (NL)
1916-1930 Brooklyn Robins (NL)
1931-1957 Brooklyn Dodgers (NL)
1958-2013 Los Angeles Dodgers (NL)

Tigers (crazystengel)
1901-2013 Detroit Tigers (AL)

Red Sox (pmars2001)
1901-1907 Boston Americans (AL)
1908-2013 Boston Red Sox (AL)

Indians (buddhagamer)
1901-1902 Cleveland Blues (AL)
1903-1915 Cleveland Naps (AL)
1916-2013 Cleveland Indians (AL)

Twins (bheid408)
1901-1960 Washington Senators (AL)
1961-2013 Minnesota Twins (AL)

Braves (finn2030)
1885-1906 Boston Beaneaters (NL)
1907-1910 Boston Doves (NL)
1911-1935 Boston Braves (NL)
1936-1940 Boston Bees (NL)
1941-1952 Boston Braves (NL)
1953-1965 Milwaukee Braves (NL)
1966-2013 Atlanta Braves (NL)

Astros/Royals/Diamondbacks (coachgreat1)
1962-1964 Houston Colt 45s (NL)
1965-2012 Houston Astros (NL)
2013 Houston Astros (AL)
1969-2013 Kansas City Royals (AL)
1998-2013 Arizona Diamondbacks (NL)

Angels/Mariners/Marlins (mllama54)
1961-1964 Los Angeles Angels (AL)
1965-1996 California Angels (AL)
1997-2005 Anaheim Angels (AL)
2006-2007 Los Angeles Angels (AL)
2008-2013 Anaheim Angels (AL)
1977-2013 Seattle Mariners (AL)
1993-2011 Florida Marlins (NL)
2012-2013 Miami Marlins (NL)

Pirates (batandball)
1885-1886 Pittsburgh Alleghenys (AA)
1887-1890 Pittsburgh Alleghenys (NL)
1891-2013 Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)


10/6/2013 9:22 PM (edited)
Fall 2013 Franchise Tournament – For Owners Who Love Research, History, and Team-Building Puzzles

I have wanted to run a tournament like this for years, and I am hoping it will generate a lot of interest. It should make for some fascinating team-building strategies.
 
Concept:
This will be a 16 team, 5-season tournament, based on a franchise theme, with all 5 leagues running simultaneously. The leagues will be different caps: 60M, 70M, 80M, 90M, and 100M.

Upon signup, each owner will select an exclusive franchise – more details on this below. You will enter 5 separate teams from that franchise, one in each league. But here’s the catch, you may not use any player more than once across your five teams. So each franchise will effectively be using 125 different players from its history. If you pick the Yankees, you can use one of the Babe’s Yankee seasons exactly once in your five teams. Up to you where you put him, but you only get him once. Of course, whoever picks the Red Sox can also use one version of Ruth (drawn from the 1915-19 seasons) and theoretically the Braves franchise could also use Ruth once, the 1935 version.

So this tournament will be a test not just of historical franchise quality, but of depth. It will reward owners who can do their research and manage effectively at five different caps. You’ll need to put together 5 different starting rotations, one for each league, using completely different players each time. We should see some very interesting strategies here. If you’re using the Braves, do you burn Greg Maddux with his dominant 1994 or 1995 season at a higher cap, or use a lesser version of Maddux at 60M or 70M, where he might actually be more dominant? Choose wisely, because you only get to use him once. And of course the same thing goes for your position players.

The leagues will start shortly after the 2013 players are released by WIS (the new release usually happens within a couple of days of the end of the MLB regular season), to allow plenty of time for team-building, and 2013 players will be eligible for this tournament.

Other details:
DH: No
Park: You may use any park that your franchise used at any time in their history. You can use the same park for all 5 leagues, or 5 different parks, or any combination.
Trades: No
Waiver Wire: No
Injuries: On
AAA: No
Clones: No (duh)
Live: No
Realignment: Random. Each league will randomly realigned exactly once, letting the cards fall where they may.
League Format: 4/4/4/4, with no interleague play.

There will be no 200K exemptions. All 25 of your players on each roster must come from your franchise. Because there will be no AAA players, no trades, no waiver wire, and injuries will be on, please be sure to draft enough PA and IP to get through the season. 
9/26/2013 5:52 AM
Standings and Prizes:
WIS has offered us $100 in prizes for this tournament. 

Overall standings will be calculated exactly as they are in schwarze’s WIS Championship:
· 1 point for each game that your teams win (including regular season and playoffs)
· 5 points for winning your division
· 5 points for winning a post season series

So the World Series winner for each league will receive 23 bonus points on top of their regular season win total (5 bonus points for winning the division, 5 bonus points for winning the LCS, 5 bonus points for winning the World Series, plus 8 points for winning 8 postseason games).

The owner with the most overall points across the five leagues will collect 60% of the overall prize money. 2nd place owner will collect 25%. 3rd place owner will collect 15%.
9/26/2013 5:53 AM
League Sitemail list: contrarian23; DarthDurron; thejuice6; Jdh34; deathdealer; zoldab; Chisock; akira_hokuto; crazystengel; pmars2001; buddhagamer; bheid408; finn2030; coachgreat1; mllama54; batandball

Waitlist: batgems
10/6/2013 9:22 PM (edited)
Standings Through 18 Games (10/18/13 PM2)

Franchise Owner 60M 70M 80M 90M 100M Total
White Sox Chisock 9 12 12 13 10 56
Cubs contrarian23 9 14 9 11 11 54
Tigers crazystengel 8 11 12 12 7 50
Twins bheid408 12 10 9 9 9 49
Cardinals thejuice6 11 8 10 8 11 48
Mets zoldab 9 8 9 12 9 47
Pirates batandball 8 13 5 7 12 45
Giants DarthDurron 10 7 11 6 11 45
Indians buddhagamer 6 14 4 7 13 44
Red Sox pmars2001 10 8 9 8 9 44
Braves finn2030 9 7 11 10 5 42
Yankees Jdh34 9 8 8 6 10 41
A's deathdealer 11 7 9 8 5 40
Angels mllama54 11 7 11 6 5 40
Astros coachgreat1 8 3 6 11 10 38
Dodgers akira_hokuto 4 7 9 10 7 37
10/18/2013 6:19 PM
Gotta admit, I'm surprised to see the Windy City doing this well.  In the case of my Cubs, the next update will likely not be so kind.  We're about to hit some serious fatigue issues.
10/18/2013 6:20 PM
If anyone is interested, here are the salary breakdowns, by league, in each case sorted by amount spent on offense.

60M                  
Team User Total Active Offense Lineup Bench Pitchers Rotation Bullpen
Rustling Doves finn2030 59,999,756 59,999,756 33,072,678 25,219,474 7,853,204 26,927,078 17,593,112 9,333,966
Astro Diamond Royalty 60 coachgreat1 59,989,877 59,989,877 32,768,036 31,143,477 1,624,559 27,221,841 21,030,898 6,190,943
White Sox 60M Chisock 59,874,591 59,874,591 31,471,529 29,841,889 1,629,640 28,403,062 17,092,715 11,310,347
St. Louis Cardinals thejuice6 59,974,408 59,974,408 30,887,910 25,065,794 5,822,116 29,086,498 19,528,097 9,558,401
Little Yankees Jdh34 59,954,381 59,954,381 30,766,201 29,540,384 1,225,817 29,188,180 18,581,778 10,606,402
Detroit Risky 60 crazystengel 59,999,220 59,999,220 30,588,423 26,577,226 4,011,197 29,410,797 18,586,502 10,824,295
Angel\Marlin\Mariner 60mil mllama54 59,991,515 59,991,515 30,554,459 24,028,009 6,526,450 29,437,056 18,403,145 11,033,911
Boston Red Sox 60 pmars2001 59,988,805 59,988,805 29,972,671 28,212,633 1,760,038 30,016,134 18,972,061 11,044,073
Plain Twinkies bheid408 59,958,918 59,958,918 29,916,234 25,917,732 3,998,502 30,042,684 14,756,643 15,286,041
Very Tired Dodgers akira_hokuto 59,987,487 59,987,487 29,635,410 19,761,359 9,874,051 30,352,077 23,624,112 6,727,965
Cleveland Indians 60m buddhagamer 59,983,476 59,983,476 29,550,041 28,413,102 1,136,939 30,433,435 23,081,147 7,352,288
AS 60M deathdealer 59,992,960 59,992,960 29,234,053 23,888,030 5,346,023 30,758,907 20,334,598 10,424,309
Montréal Metropolitans zoldab 59,981,897 59,981,897 28,955,563 25,983,846 2,971,717 31,026,334 18,006,494 13,019,840
Pittsburgh 60 batandball 59,998,065 59,998,065 28,038,036 24,879,270 3,158,766 31,960,029 29,441,638 2,518,391
$60 Million Giants DarthDurron 59,936,388 59,936,388 28,037,442 24,057,031 3,980,411 31,898,946 20,091,838 11,807,108
Chicago Cubs 60M contrarian23 59,980,674 59,980,674 26,021,380 25,021,380 1,000,000 33,959,294 25,339,529 8,619,765
10/18/2013 6:33 PM

70M                  
Team User Total Active Offense Lineup Bench Pitchers Rotation Bullpen
Colorado Expos zoldab 69,985,256 69,985,256 42,142,345 40,782,909 1,359,436 27,842,911 16,680,734 11,162,177
Astro Diamond Royalty 70 coachgreat1 69,994,631 69,994,631 38,875,325 35,503,206 3,372,119 31,119,306 23,779,049 7,340,257
Cream Twinkies bheid408 69,826,563 69,826,563 38,570,498 30,468,088 8,102,410 31,256,065 12,821,321 18,434,744
Detroit Heavenly 70 crazystengel 69,997,622 69,997,622 37,429,965 31,143,916 6,286,049 32,567,657 22,579,896 9,987,761
St. Louis Cardinals thejuice6 69,985,533 69,985,533 37,395,293 34,945,596 2,449,697 32,590,240 23,180,871 9,409,369
White Sox 70M Chisock 69,981,565 69,981,565 36,234,794 34,952,130 1,282,664 33,746,771 20,168,874 13,577,897
Yankees Jdh34 69,960,747 69,960,747 35,809,498 29,900,384 5,909,114 34,151,249 22,361,902 11,789,347
Pittsburgh 70 batandball 69,920,538 69,920,538 35,045,971 32,722,806 2,323,165 34,874,567 22,025,600 12,848,967
Boston Red Sox 70 pmars2001 69,998,893 69,998,893 34,840,803 32,698,049 2,142,754 35,158,090 21,084,838 14,073,252
Bee Charmers finn2030 69,980,452 69,980,452 34,789,938 28,426,356 6,363,582 35,190,514 21,760,622 13,429,892
Angel\Marlin\Mariner 70mil mllama54 69,993,141 69,993,141 34,439,339 28,048,453 6,390,886 35,553,802 26,100,871 9,452,931
Sandy and the Left-over Dodgers akira_hokuto 69,972,476 69,972,476 34,432,919 27,162,059 7,270,860 35,539,557 30,827,121 4,712,436
Cleveland Indians 70m buddhagamer 69,997,166 69,997,166 34,135,005 30,785,030 3,349,975 35,862,161 21,088,654 14,773,507
As 70M deathdealer 69,995,048 69,995,048 33,139,490 31,616,977 1,522,513 36,855,558 24,200,009 12,655,549
$70 Million Giants DarthDurron 69,829,868 69,829,868 32,964,686 26,124,855 6,839,831 36,865,182 24,964,791 11,900,391
Chicago Cubs 70M contrarian23 69,942,865 69,942,865 31,941,628 28,424,150 3,517,478 38,001,237 30,457,627 7,543,610

10/18/2013 6:33 PM
80M                  
Team User Total Active Offense Lineup Bench Pitchers Rotation Bullpen
Chocolate Twinkies bheid408 79,994,681 79,994,681 46,806,920 39,837,067 6,969,853 33,187,761 15,209,572 17,978,189
Detroit Crazy 80 crazystengel 79,991,935 79,991,935 44,433,517 35,823,836 8,609,681 35,558,418 25,207,687 10,350,731
Dickey, Donny and Mick Jdh34 79,990,657 79,990,657 44,018,634 41,006,826 3,011,808 35,972,023 26,678,858 9,293,165
St. Louis Cardinals thejuice6 79,820,588 79,820,588 42,947,688 38,123,694 4,823,994 36,872,900 26,176,465 10,696,435
White Sox 80M Chisock 79,983,968 79,983,968 42,890,462 41,628,703 1,261,759 37,093,506 25,571,600 11,521,906
Astro Diamond Royalty 80 coachgreat1 79,762,391 79,762,391 41,817,106 40,346,027 1,471,079 37,945,285 27,702,278 10,243,007
Pittsburgh 80 batandball 79,994,181 79,994,181 41,727,352 34,104,521 7,622,831 38,266,829 26,637,792 11,629,037
Boston Red Sox 80 pmars2001 79,996,811 79,996,811 40,537,283 38,831,686 1,705,597 39,459,528 23,574,374 15,885,154
Angel\Marlin\Mariner 80mil mllama54 79,985,435 79,985,435 39,879,439 37,045,972 2,833,467 40,105,996 28,874,467 11,231,529
Unbalanced Dodgers akira_hokuto 79,997,570 79,997,570 39,354,523 36,641,899 2,712,624 40,643,047 31,507,821 9,135,226
Do The Georgia Crawl finn2030 79,993,883 79,993,883 39,083,624 36,095,432 2,988,192 40,910,259 26,253,603 14,656,656
As 80M deathdealer 79,955,308 79,955,308 38,531,483 36,461,828 2,069,655 41,423,825 24,062,606 17,361,219
Cleveland Indians 80m buddhagamer 79,996,472 79,996,472 37,957,546 34,655,014 3,302,532 42,038,926 34,150,224 7,888,702
$80 Million Giants DarthDurron 79,948,027 79,948,027 37,902,026 33,651,123 4,250,903 42,046,001 29,901,232 12,144,769
Denver Nationals zoldab 79,993,086 79,993,086 37,218,893 26,792,349 10,426,544 42,774,193 26,760,727 16,013,466
Chicago Cubs 80M contrarian23 79,961,209 79,961,209 33,673,231 31,934,359 1,738,872 46,287,978 33,777,794 12,510,184
10/18/2013 6:34 PM
90M                  
Team User Total Active Offense Lineup Bench Pitchers Rotation Bullpen
Detroit Kindly 90 crazystengel 89,999,502 89,999,502 48,744,953 43,433,462 5,311,491 41,254,549 19,487,420 21,767,129
White Sox 90M Chisock 89,997,717 89,997,717 48,717,026 47,287,793 1,429,233 41,280,691 27,335,765 13,944,926
St. Louis Cardinals thejuice6 89,971,483 89,971,483 47,927,504 42,551,851 5,375,653 42,043,979 30,828,660 11,215,319
90 Yankees Jdh34 89,955,287 89,955,287 47,926,420 44,942,451 2,983,969 42,028,867 22,322,144 19,706,723
Astro Diamond Royalty 90 coachgreat1 89,997,866 89,997,866 46,966,952 43,651,545 3,315,407 43,030,914 33,171,317 9,859,597
Sugared Twinkies bheid408 89,999,926 89,999,926 45,623,317 39,223,012 6,400,305 44,376,609 31,928,743 12,447,866
Angel\Marlin\Mariner 90mil mllama54 89,992,101 89,992,101 45,060,467 38,811,019 6,249,448 44,931,634 33,292,174 11,639,460
Boston Red Sox 90 pmars2001 89,999,208 89,999,208 45,032,073 43,190,887 1,841,186 44,967,135 25,383,353 19,583,782
Atlanta Strut finn2030 89,995,771 89,995,771 44,956,434 43,380,759 1,575,675 45,039,337 25,299,864 19,739,473
Queens Rockies zoldab 89,981,171 89,981,171 44,888,306 42,176,720 2,711,586 45,092,865 27,689,530 17,403,335
Pittsburgh 90 batandball 89,997,846 89,997,846 43,680,693 35,858,979 7,821,714 46,317,153 34,170,003 12,147,150
Spitballin Dodgers akira_hokuto 89,968,407 89,968,407 43,660,417 42,101,965 1,558,452 46,307,990 30,375,274 15,932,716
$90 Million Giants DarthDurron 89,964,148 89,964,148 43,465,471 38,975,897 4,489,574 46,498,677 26,648,364 19,850,313
Cleveland Indians 90m buddhagamer 89,996,771 89,996,771 42,548,657 39,156,206 3,392,451 47,448,114 37,671,664 9,776,450
Chicago Cubs 90M contrarian23 89,986,165 89,986,165 40,364,711 37,623,466 2,741,245 49,621,454 37,009,637 12,611,817
AS 90M deathdealer 89,970,883 89,970,883 39,243,348 33,799,049 5,444,299 50,727,535 36,098,324 14,629,211
10/18/2013 6:34 PM
100M                  
Team User Total Active Offense Lineup Bench Pitchers Rotation Bullpen
Detroit Thunderin 100 crazystengel 99,991,973 99,991,973 58,823,055 40,023,546 18,799,509 41,168,918 27,300,333 13,868,585
High End Yanks Jdh34 99,962,651 99,962,651 53,515,672 46,845,104 6,670,568 46,446,979 35,344,700 11,102,279
Astro Diamond Royalty 100 coachgreat1 99,990,439 99,990,439 52,773,101 51,573,101 1,200,000 47,217,338 37,352,023 9,865,315
Cocaine Twinkies bheid408 99,999,721 99,999,721 52,438,234 50,880,330 1,557,904 47,561,487 29,671,430 17,890,057
St. Louis Cardinals thejuice6 99,998,787 99,998,787 50,393,792 45,606,483 4,787,309 49,604,995 32,468,402 17,136,593
White Sox 100M Chisock 99,990,698 99,990,698 50,294,266 48,715,019 1,579,247 49,696,432 34,623,175 15,073,257
Not Much To Show for 100 mil Dodgers akira_hokuto 99,999,910 99,999,910 50,196,741 48,840,311 1,356,430 49,803,169 34,462,971 15,340,198
Angel\Marlin\Mariner 100mil mllama54 99,985,410 99,985,410 50,112,675 42,300,276 7,812,399 49,872,735 38,012,430 11,860,305
Pittsburgh 100 batandball 99,992,809 99,992,809 49,882,474 36,206,701 13,675,773 50,110,335 36,387,053 13,723,282
Cleveland Indians 100m buddhagamer 99,990,765 99,990,765 49,741,807 48,243,423 1,498,384 50,248,958 40,776,992 9,471,966
Boston Red Sox 100 pmars2001 99,999,233 99,999,233 49,576,465 45,366,015 4,210,450 50,422,768 31,096,438 19,326,330
Washington Mets zoldab 99,990,968 99,990,968 49,206,353 46,576,102 2,630,251 50,784,615 35,588,328 15,196,287
$100 Million Giants DarthDurron 99,981,449 99,981,449 48,027,825 44,939,067 3,088,758 51,953,624 36,110,011 15,843,613
AS 100M deathdealer 99,990,456 99,990,456 47,518,705 45,718,705 1,800,000 52,471,751 41,146,703 11,325,048
It Done Got Good To Me finn2030 99,999,898 99,999,898 47,253,488 45,474,230 1,779,258 52,746,410 34,606,454 18,139,956
Chicago Cubs 100M contrarian23 99,975,167 99,975,167 46,626,932 45,395,675 1,231,257 53,348,235 37,767,180 15,581,055
10/18/2013 6:34 PM
Interestingly, the current 1st and 3rd place teams spent disproportionately on offense.  The 2nd place team spent by far the least on offense.  There are a lot of ways to win in this game...though again, part of my low spending on offense was not buying enough PA, which is about to bite me in the posterior.
10/18/2013 6:36 PM
Standings Through 36 games (10/24/13 PM2)

Franchise Owner 60M 70M 80M 90M 100M Total
White Sox Chisock 20 22 22 21 16 101
Cardinals thejuice6 23 17 23 17 21 101
Tigers crazystengel 14 19 24 23 20 100
Cubs contrarian23 17 26 15 21 18 97
Giants DarthDurron 18 19 23 12 22 94
Pirates batandball 18 23 13 17 22 93
Twins bheid408 19 17 19 17 19 91
Indians buddhagamer 15 23 10 19 24 91
Red Sox pmars2001 19 19 16 18 19 91
Mets zoldab 21 13 22 17 18 91
Angels mllama54 20 14 24 14 14 86
Braves finn2030 20 15 15 19 15 84
Dodgers akira_hokuto 14 15 17 21 16 83
Astros coachgreat1 16 14 14 20 18 82
Yankees Jdh34 19 16 15 14 17 81
A's deathdealer 15 16 16 18 9 74
10/24/2013 6:22 PM
It is pretty plain that I simply didn't draft enough pitching. I'll do my best to try to keep things orderly but I think there are going to be some big numbers put up against us. I also seem to have done a miserable job picking home parks, having a team be 3-11 at home is pretty ugly. This has been quite an education as I've got two of the worst teams I've ever had here.
10/24/2013 8:05 PM
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