Posted by shawnfucious on 10/2/2013 1:47:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 12:30:00 PM (view original):
Here's something else:

More people having access to healthcare seems like a good idea.  The right thing to do.    And I have to admit I have a hard time objecting to it.   However, the dirty underside is that people will live longer and require more medical care to maintain life.   Isn't that going to escalate the cost of subsidized healthcare?

I only donate to animal charities and that's a question I ask myself from time to time.    Of course I get the emailed newsletters detailing how they saved a dog that was near death.   Right thing to do.   However, in the next paragraph, they'll ask for foster homes because the facility if overrun with animals needing homes.   They just went to great lengths to save a dog that had hours to live to add to their overpopulated/underfunded facility.     Is that where ACA is headed?

this is some crazy thinking here. ppl are not dogs. ppl living longer is NOT a dirty underside to anything - it is almost entirely a good thing. if the costs rise, so be it. who are you to assign value to someone else's life or health?

No, it's not crazy thinking.   It's a simple fact of keeping people around after their expected expiration date.   When costs go up, the funds have to come from somewhere.

I can assign value to anything I want.   Who are you to tell me I can't?

expected expiration? what a joke. there is no such thing. ppl die when they die, and if they live longer, its almost always a good thing.  and sure assign value to other ppl's lives, just don't expect anyone to take you seriously. you are not the ruler of the world who gets to dictate who lives and who dies, which is pretty much what you are saying you want to do.

"almost always a good thing"?      Define, please. 

I'm overly concerned what you take seriously.    I really, really am. 

it is rare to find a situation where living longer is a bad thing. maybe someone who is terminal ill. maybe someone in chronic pain and always will be. those are maybes. so ya you can find some situations that maybe a bad thing but prolly 99% of time its a good thing

Posted by tecwrg on 10/2/2013 3:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Why does the ACA need to be repealed? Can't another law be introduced alongside it?

No, it needs to be repealed.  Because while it's in place, the mentality is "WE FIXED HEALTHCARE, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!".  And as long as that mentality is prevalent, then the perceived need to fix healthcare the correct way is diminished.

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 3:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 10/2/2013 3:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Why does the ACA need to be repealed? Can't another law be introduced alongside it?

No, it needs to be repealed.  Because while it's in place, the mentality is "WE FIXED HEALTHCARE, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!".  And as long as that mentality is prevalent, then the perceived need to fix healthcare the correct way is diminished.

I don't think that's reality. Clearly the system needs work but it's not necessary to repeal a law whose primary purpose is to expand access to healthcare in order to introduce a law that fixes healthcare costs.

How about this, introduce a law that does everything the ACA does and fixes the cost issue and repeals the old version of the ACA?

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 1:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 1:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 1:39:00 PM (view original):
Are you asking what happens if you don't file a tax return?

Are you implying that everyone gets a refund?

If you get insurance through your employer, the info will be included on your W2. So you don't have to fill out anything.

Posted by tecwrg on 10/2/2013 3:45:00 PM (view original):
If the cost issue is fixed, then "doing everything the ACA does" probably wouldn't be needed.  Just something that would fill whatever gaps are left behind.  We don't know exactly what that would be right now.

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 3:45:00 PM (view original):
That's why. You don't just repeal the ACA and waste the next ten years debating a replacement. Have a replacement ready or STFU.

Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 3:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 1:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 1:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 1:39:00 PM (view original):
Are you asking what happens if you don't file a tax return?

Are you implying that everyone gets a refund?

If you get insurance through your employer, the info will be included on your W2. So you don't have to fill out anything.

And if you don't?

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 4:05:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 1:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 1:39:00 PM (view original):
Are you asking what happens if you don't file a tax return?

Are you implying that everyone gets a refund?

If you get insurance through your employer, the info will be included on your W2. So you don't have to fill out anything.

And if you don't?

Then your health insurance company will give you a form that proves you have coverage. You send that in when you file your taxes.

And if I don't send in that form because I don't have a health insurance company and I am not getting a refund?  

 

Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 4:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 4:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 3:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 1:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 1:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 1:39:00 PM (view original):
Are you asking what happens if you don't file a tax return?

Are you implying that everyone gets a refund?

If you get insurance through your employer, the info will be included on your W2. So you don't have to fill out anything.

And if you don't?

Then your health insurance company will give you a form that proves you have coverage. You send that in when you file your taxes.

And if I don't send in that form because I don't have a health insurance company and I am not getting a refund?  

 

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 4:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 4:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 4:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 3:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 1:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 10/2/2013 1:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 1:39:00 PM (view original):
Are you asking what happens if you don't file a tax return?

Are you implying that everyone gets a refund?

If you get insurance through your employer, the info will be included on your W2. So you don't have to fill out anything.

And if you don't?

Then your health insurance company will give you a form that proves you have coverage. You send that in when you file your taxes.

And if I don't send in that form because I don't have a health insurance company and I am not getting a refund?  

 

If you don't have health insurance, you owe a penalty of $95, due when you file your taxes.

How will that be collected?

Posted by bad_luck on 10/2/2013 4:14:00 PM (view original):
The same way any tax is collected when you file your taxes. You fill out the form, calculate how much you owe, and send a check (or pay online).