it always amazes me what a big % of HD players are from cinci, given that it is based here (makes me think HD would be way more successful if the rest of the country had heard of it - in a few of my conferences we've had a third or more of people from the cinci area, which is like, less than 1% of the national population... and its even not very well known here, not by the cinci public at large). i think indi probably gets a similar, albeit less pronounced, effect. tarek (old admin/WIS creator) used to host these kinds of things, he'd buy people drinks at a local bar, but that was before my time (sadly). but i think it would be fun!