2015 baseball HOF ballot. Topic

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/16/2017 2:35:00 PM (view original):
Sorry, BL3, I don't have to prove ****. I say he doesn't deserve to be in and, year after year, he is not in. Appears to me that I'm right.
I win. GG 2 EZ No Re
11/16/2017 2:36 PM
Posted by Jtpsops on 11/16/2017 1:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 11/16/2017 12:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Jtpsops on 11/16/2017 11:22:00 AM (view original):
That line of thinking is how the O's ended up with Mark Trumbo. What a joy it's been watching him strikeout or pop up pitches in the heart of the order in key situations. Don't want him taking a disastrous walk and giving the team another baserunner.
the only thing Trumbo has going for him as a hitter is power. He's not a good hitter. The same does not apply to Martinez. He was a very good hitter
I wasn't comparing Trumbo to Edgar. I was saying the philosophy that heart of the order guys need to swing the bat and not draw walks is how we end up with hitters like Trumbo in the meat of the order. I'll take a 10-20 homer, 100-walk guy over Trumbo any day of the week.
who wouldn't? (Well, maybe Mike wouldn't)
11/16/2017 2:43 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/16/2017 12:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Got_Worms on 11/16/2017 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/16/2017 12:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Got_Worms on 11/16/2017 11:13:00 AM (view original):
You seem to think good hitters shouldn't walk (much) and it's a worthless stat for a 3-4-5 hitter. Kind of like how Jeff Sessions says "Good people don't smoke Marijuana!"
There's the unintentional intentional walk. A lot of the guys on that list saw pitches that were not borderline. Do you think Martinez commanded the same respect as Bonds, Ruth, Mantle, etc? Because, if you do, I'm not sure you understand baseball.
Not comparing Edgar to these players but was trying to help you understand that walks are good for hitters regardless of where they hit in the lineup. Look, Edgar is a borderline candidate at best, but it's not going to diminish Cooperstown if he's elected.

Yes, I understand baseball completely!!
OK, BLjr. Not making outs is a good thing. I think everyone knows this. But, like all Germans aren't Nazis, all walks aren't the same.

If you have Ozzie Smith and Edgar Martinez coming up in the exact same situation, who do you want to swing and who do you want to walk? Neither will be TRYING to make an out while swinging(I feel like that has to be stated since you are behaving like BLjr). 3-2 count, borderline pitch.

Now you can BL up and avoid answering with some convoluted response or, since you understand baseball completely, you can pick Smith or Martinez to swing.
Um...you're happy if either one walks. More base-runners is a good thing.
11/16/2017 5:18 PM
Yes, more baserunners is a good thing, but hits instead of walks with runners on base is a good thing too. I'd much rather have EM up in that situation and I'd also rather he gets a hit instead of a walk.
11/16/2017 5:59 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 11/16/2017 5:59:00 PM (view original):
Yes, more baserunners is a good thing, but hits instead of walks with runners on base is a good thing too. I'd much rather have EM up in that situation and I'd also rather he gets a hit instead of a walk.
Well, no ******* ****. But you wouldn't count it as a ******* negative if he ended up walking.
11/16/2017 6:06 PM
Never said I would.
11/16/2017 6:08 PM
No, mike is, though.
11/16/2017 6:11 PM
who the hell cares what Mike says? He's an idiot.
11/16/2017 7:22 PM
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