Posted by gillispie1 on 2/15/2014 2:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by llamanunts on 2/15/2014 2:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ettaexpress on 2/15/2014 12:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by llamanunts on 2/15/2014 11:12:00 AM (view original):
If you list the game, the time of the substitution (or lack thereof), your depth chart, and what you think should have happened, we can explainwhat happened and how to avoid it.t
There's not just one. That's the thing with all of this, on several fronts. People seem ot act like I'm reacting and complaining about a single instance. I'm not. These things are systemic and really I would think veterans wouldn't even have to be given an explanation because they would just know because surely it's happened with their teams too.
I would also think they would have been screaming to get these things fixed or leave the sim but obviously neither of those has happened in large enough quantities.
Just pick one. There's a reason for these issues and this is how to troubleshoot it.
exactly.
the thing is, etta, believe or not - the rest of us have went through these same issues. instead of just complaining, we sought help with real examples and got feedback on how to do it better. we learned. then we realized the system really wasn't so messed up after all. or in other cases, we still thought it was messed up, and there are plenty of things you will hear people complain about or be unhappy with. i think the fatigue substitution is imperfect but is not nearly as bad as you describe it. with specifics, we could review your situation and explain your troubles, or else maybe you'd convince us its more wrong than we think. but these pseudo random complaints without anything real in terms of evidence or examples is no way to advance the ball on these conversations.
Nothing pseudo random about them.
I never thought my experience was unique. With you confirming such, I don't really know why it's necessary for me to pick out specific instances (especially since there are many, in practically every game of the season with wildly different lineups, sub routines, using both fatigue and minutes) when like you said, it's all happened before. That means you know or should know what I'm talking about, but you just want a specific instance to pick on in order to say "oh well no wonder, you're trying to do this" (probably some completely realistic thing which RL teams do all the time).
It seems like your core veteran group may be lacking actual basketball knowledge or was at the time the sim was being actively managed, and so that's why when you encountered problems, rather than going to the designers and saying "this makes you sense", you lived with it and tried to learn little workarounds for the sim's flaws. And all of the people coming after you pay for your lack of savvy and your seeming lack of desire to learn about the real game -- only to learn how to game a sim.
So if since you've been through the same issues, through your experience you intuitively or by previous trial-and-error know what is going on, then feel free to say something. But don't ask me to set up a strawman for you. And if you think this is being overly defensive, I would refer to you the previous thread wherein I was punished and you weren't for the same things. Asymmetic punishment for veterans + you being a rather cantankerous sort among that group and one that has already given me trouble = every reason to be defensive.