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Posted by smokey57 on 3/21/2014 4:11:00 AM (view original):
This is an interessting statement.."In the SimEngine, Assist% is a component that can impact (positively or negatively) the shooting percentage of the player's team on offense. It also helps determine if a made field goal resulted from an assist and if so, which player is credited with the assist". This seems to say ast% has two functions 1) as a modifier of fg% and 2) to determine if an ast is credited and to whom.
the second function is purely cosmetic impacting the box score but not the outcome - an assist is determined to have happened and then it is assigned after the fact - many of the stat categories have this secondary function
3/21/2014 4:20 AM
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Posted by scudmissle on 3/21/2014 4:03:00 AM (view original):
smoke, u proddin' us along to that +3 perimeter setting?

no one in the paint unless you're thinking of drafting a big kahuna at the numer 3.

whom I suspect u'r takin' next... will still be there... you were the last guy to draft him (if 98 doesn't)

ballsy to draft dirk with no window cleaners, yet, oddly, seems like "just" a nose bleed.

unleash the kahuna!
Actually I'm try'n to stick you in the middle, so I can control the boards & rain tres on your butt.  lmao. 1 kahuna coming up....
3/21/2014 4:27 AM
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btw scud, KG is going to play the 3. That leave the 4 to fill...???
3/21/2014 4:32 AM
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smokey if you have steelers proxy as was indicated please post it
3/21/2014 4:39 AM
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Posted by felonius on 3/21/2014 4:20:00 AM (view original):
Posted by smokey57 on 3/21/2014 4:11:00 AM (view original):
This is an interessting statement.."In the SimEngine, Assist% is a component that can impact (positively or negatively) the shooting percentage of the player's team on offense. It also helps determine if a made field goal resulted from an assist and if so, which player is credited with the assist". This seems to say ast% has two functions 1) as a modifier of fg% and 2) to determine if an ast is credited and to whom.
the second function is purely cosmetic impacting the box score but not the outcome - an assist is determined to have happened and then it is assigned after the fact - many of the stat categories have this secondary function
I see, but thats what we calculate from our ast%..apg. Then the primary function is to modify fg%, and we really have no way to quanitate the positive (bump) or negative effect of the ast%. I work from a base idea that about 30-32 well distributed apg result in a solid positive effect wrt fg%.
3/21/2014 6:04 AM
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I view def as how you modify an opponents fg%, and ast as how you modify you own fg%. In short you battle strong def with strong ast%..and visa versa. the shooter is caught in the middle somewhere. If you have weak ast you have no way to fend off a strong def and your fg% will suffer.
3/21/2014 6:14 AM
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Name GP GS Min Pts FG% 3Pt% FT% OReb Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF
66-67 Rick Barry 82 82 39.5 27.4 50.2 47.8 89.5 1.5 6.4 3.5 3.3 1.5 0.7 2.7
52-53 George Mikan 82 82 37.5 20.7 44.9 37.5 77.9 3.7 14.2 4.8 3.2 1.6 3.6 3.5
66-67 Guy Rodgers 82 82 37.3 15.4 44.5 35.0 83.8 0.5 3.2 10.7 2.7 2.3 0.3 2.8
68-69 Warren Jabali 82 82 32.8 17.0 48.9 30.8 71.0 2.8 7.5 3.2 3.0 1.4 0.9 3.0
69-70 Willie Wise 82 82 32.5 13.1 52.7 30.0 69.1 3.3 10.0 2.7 1.6 1.3 1.0 3.3
61-62 Rudy Larusso 82 0 21.0 8.8 48.6 34.1 73.6 1.5 5.1 1.5 1.2 1.0 0.5 1.5
51-52 Al McGuire 82 0 12.1 4.2 53.3 35.5 54.3 0.9 1.8 2.4 1.1 0.9 0.3 1.6
60-61 Swede Halbrook 81 0 10.4 2.9 34.2 0.0 45.7 1.1 4.0 0.2 0.7 0.5 1.2 1.7
69-70 Bob Portman 82 0 9.1 3.6 40.7 24.0 84.6 0.6 2.1 0.3 0.7 0.2 0.3 0.8
69-70 George Thompson 82 0 7.6 3.7 40.2 11.8 63.4 0.3 0.5 0.5 0.6 0.4 0.1 0.8
69-70 Craig Raymond 17 0 11.9 3.9 46.6 0 65.0 0.8 3.1 0.3 0.9 0.2 1.0 1.4
TOTALS 82     117.5 47.2 37.4 76.4 16.2 55.3 29.9 18.3 11.1 9.2 22.1
OPPONENTS 82     114.6 46.3 36.1 73.5 16.1 54.1 24.5 19.0 10.4 7.9 22.1

SimLeague Playoff Stats
Name GP GS Min Pts FG% 3Pt% FT% OReb Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF
66-67 Guy Rodgers 7 7 39.0 16.7 43.4 34.6 80.0 0.7 4.3 11.0 3.4 1.7 0.3 3.1
52-53 George Mikan 7 7 38.9 21.0 44.0 40.0 75.0 3.6 13.6 5.0 3.6 2.3 3.3 4.0
66-67 Rick Barry 7 7 38.6 23.7 45.9 36.8 83.3 1.4 6.6 2.6 4.1 1.4 0.4 3.4
68-69 Warren Jabali 7 7 33.6 16.9 46.3 0.0 64.3 3.0 6.4 3.6 3.0 1.3 0.6 2.6
69-70 Willie Wise 7 7 32.4 13.9 55.8 66.7 60.0 4.0 11.3 2.1 2.0 1.3 1.0 3.7
61-62 Rudy Larusso 7 0 24.7 7.3 46.2 0.0 100.0 1.7 5.3 2.1 1.1 0.4 0.4 1.6
51-52 Al McGuire 7 0 10.1 3.3 47.1 25.0 60.0 0.9 2.3 2.3 0.9 0.3 0.3 1.6
60-61 Swede Halbrook 7 0 8.0 1.4 36.4 0 33.3 0.9 2.7 0.0 0.6 0.6 1.3 1.6
69-70 Bob Portman 7 0 7.9 3.0 36.0 0.0 75.0 0.6 2.4 0.1 0.3 0.0 0.4 0.9
69-70 George Thompson 7 0 6.9 5.6 50.0 0.0 62.5 0.3 0.9 0.6 0.3 0.3 0.0 0.1
TOTALS 7     112.7 46.1 30.7 71.4 17.0 55.7 29.4 19.3 9.6 8.0 22.6
OPPONENTS 7     118.3 47.0 35.7 76.7 15.4 56.0 29.4 17.0 9.3 7.1 19.0

Actual Stats
Name Pos GP* Min Pts FG% 3Pt% FT% OReb Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF
66-67 Rick Barry SF 79 40.7 36.7 45.1 36.7 88.4 2.5 9.2 3.6 3.8 1.7 0.6 3.3
52-53 George Mikan C 82 37.9 21.0 39.9 33.7 77.9 4.3 14.4 2.9 3.2 1.4 2.2 4.1
66-67 Guy Rodgers PG 82 37.8 19.1 39.1 34.5 80.7 0.7 4.3 11.2 4.0 2.4 0.2 3.0
61-62 Rudy Larusso PF 82 34.4 17.6 46.6 33.3 76.3 3.2 10.4 2.2 2.4 1.1 0.9 3.2
68-69 Warren Jabali SG 75 35.8 21.5 44.9 25.5 68.6 3.2 9.7 3.5 4.3 1.6 1.0 3.7
69-70 Willie Wise PF 81 33.0 15.1 47.7 23.5 65.2 3.8 11.5 2.5 2.3 1.2 1.0 3.7
69-70 Craig Raymond C 45 34.1 15.4 49.1 0.0 66.8 3.7 11.7 2.2 3.0 1.0 2.1 3.8
60-61 Swede Halbrook C 83 14.3 4.8 33.5 0.0 54.1 2.3 6.9 0.4 1.3 0.6 2.0 3.3
69-70 George Thompson SG 53 18.8 12.9 44.1 21.9 67.7 0.9 1.7 1.4 1.6 0.8 0.3 2.0
51-52 Al McGuire PG 74 13.4 3.7 43.3 28.9 52.6 0.9 2.0 1.8 1.2 0.7 0.2 2.3
69-70 Bob Portman SG 60 13.6 7.2 44.5 32.5 77.6 1.2 3.7 0.5 0.8 0.5 0.3 1.3
66-67 Jim Ware PF 34 6.1 2.4 31.3 36.8 61.1 0.7 2.1 0.2 0.4 0.2 0.0 1.1
3/21/2014 6:59 AM (edited)
smokey57
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Check out McGuire...+10%!!! Miken, Barry, & Wise +5%. Berry's 3pt% was up +11% (47.7%)..yup #1 3pt shooter in the league.  lmao

3/21/2014 7:01 AM (edited)
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The point is not that I can do this in an open draft but that the effect is real. As van points out, I don't need +5% a mere +1-1.5% should do it. Obviously the def in era stunk the place up and ast ruled.
3/21/2014 7:19 AM (edited)
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eh - that's more of an era thing, though. Plenty of other teams in that league shooting well over RL% too.  You can't translate results from old school leagues to this league. I do agree that ast% is important - I usually like to have 60-70% in my lineup - I just don't know if it works the way you think it does.
3/21/2014 7:53 AM
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On an unrelated note, I don't think I like my team very much. Just doesn't feel right.
3/21/2014 7:54 AM
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Posted by smokey57 on 3/21/2014 6:04:00 AM (view original):
Posted by felonius on 3/21/2014 4:20:00 AM (view original):
Posted by smokey57 on 3/21/2014 4:11:00 AM (view original):
This is an interessting statement.."In the SimEngine, Assist% is a component that can impact (positively or negatively) the shooting percentage of the player's team on offense. It also helps determine if a made field goal resulted from an assist and if so, which player is credited with the assist". This seems to say ast% has two functions 1) as a modifier of fg% and 2) to determine if an ast is credited and to whom.
the second function is purely cosmetic impacting the box score but not the outcome - an assist is determined to have happened and then it is assigned after the fact - many of the stat categories have this secondary function
I see, but thats what we calculate from our ast%..apg. Then the primary function is to modify fg%, and we really have no way to quanitate the positive (bump) or negative effect of the ast%. I work from a base idea that about 30-32 well distributed apg result in a solid positive effect wrt fg%.
impact on fg% is the only important thing, the rest is window dressing - the engine determines whether a shot has been made before determining whether it was assisted and only after that deciding who dropped the dime
3/21/2014 8:13 AM
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Waiting to see just how much my short list gets shredded by the three picks ahead of me...  I like what I've got so far, but the train could come off the tracks in any given round.
3/21/2014 8:27 AM
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This is quite interesting. IMO logain's pick at #88 sort of determines what happens this season. I didn't realize that his next pick isn't until #128 in the 5th. 
3/21/2014 11:16 AM
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Yes,, I am struggling!
3/21/2014 11:22 AM
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