2016 Presidential Race Topic

Clinton leads Trump by 3 points, 43 percent to 40 percent, in a head-to-head match-up in theMorning Consult poll released Sunday morning.

One week ago, Clinton led Trump by 6 points, 44 percent to 38 percent.

8/28/2016 10:40 AM
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8/28/2016 10:46 AM

Much has been made of Donald Trump’s problems with a few voting groups — female voters, blacks and Hispanics, and young voters, in particular. And, to be sure, they are all problems.

But relatively speaking, his biggest problem actually appears to be with a different group: Catholics.

Yes, the man who once feuded with the pope (how soon we forget that actually happened) is cratering among Catholics.

Back in 2012, GOP nominee Mitt Romney lost the Catholic vote by just 2 points, 50 percent to 48 percent. And the GOP has actually won the Catholic vote as recently as 2004 and in 5 of the last 10 presidential elections.

But Trump trails among Catholics by a huge margin. A new poll from the Public Religion Research Institute released this week shows him down 23 points, 55-32.

A Washington Post-ABC News poll released earlier this month painted an even worse picture for Trump’s Catholic support. He was down by 27 points, 61-34.

If you compare the difference between Romney’s margin among Catholics in 2012 and Trump’s margin among Catholics this year, the 25-point difference is tied for the biggest shift of any demographic group in the Post-ABC poll.

(The only group that matches that 25-point shift is white, college-educated women. Romney won them by 6 points; Trump trails by 19.)

Trump’s deficits among non-whites and young voters, by contrast, are similar to where Romney and Republicans have been in recent years. The Post-ABC poll, in fact, showed Hillary Clinton failing to match Obama’s margin among non-whites — though not in a statistically meaningful way — while her margin among young voters ages 18-to-29 was three points better.

These are groups, in other words, that Republicans don’t expect to do well with. And they still don’t.

But Catholics have long been a swing vote in presidential elections, and right now they’re swinging hard for Clinton.

It’s also hard to overstate just how significant Trump’s poor performance among Catholics is. That’s because they comprise about one-quarter of voters in the United States (25 percent in 2012 exit polls) and are about as big a voting bloc as non-whites (28 percent) and independents (29 percent).
While we often look at how Trump is doing worse than Romney among Hispanics, we’re really talking about the difference between Trump taking 45 percent of the vote and 46 percent — or maybe 49.5 percent or 50.5 percent. That’s because Hispanics are only about 10 percent of the electorate, and the GOP’s share of that vote is likely to be between 20 and 35 percent or so.

When talking about Catholics, though, Trump is basically adding 5 to 7 percentage points to Clinton’s overall margin. If 25 percent of the electorate is Catholic, Clinton is currently taking 14 to 15 points worth of that chunk, while Trump is taking 8 or 8.5 points. And this is a group, again, that is usually close to tied.

The reasons for Trump’s struggles among this group are open to interpretation. Perhaps Pope Francis’s criticism of Trump and Trump’s surprisingly confrontational response have turned off Catholics to Trump’s candidacy.

“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian," the pope said in February when asked about Trump’s border wall.

As the Religion News Services’s John Gehring recently posited, it could also have something to do with Trump’s immigration policies:

Part of Catholics’ DNA is an appreciation for how Irish and other immigrants toiled and thrived in the shadow of a suspicious, fiercely anti-Catholic culture dominated by white Anglo-Saxon Protestants. ...

When Trump calls for a religious test for Muslims entering the country; questions the faith of Hillary Clinton, President Obama and Mitt Romney; and demonizes undocumented immigrants as “rapists,” it’s a reminder of the ugly nativism that Catholics once faced.

While this contemporary strain of old xenophobia is particularly felt by Latinos who increasingly are the face of the Catholic Church in the United States, many white Catholics surely take pride in family stories of grandparents and great-grandparents who were strangers in a new land. Trump has dug himself a deep hole he is unlikely to climb out of with these voters.

But whatever the cause, Trump’s struggles among Catholics remains one of the really undersold story lines of the 2016 election.

8/28/2016 11:11 AM
As a Catholic Italian American I can tell you Moy that this is a HUGE problem for the dumpster
8/28/2016 11:14 AM
As a evangelical presbyter from Lutheran heritage directly from the catholic church with some italian and german-scots irish blood with Frankish origins and slave blood mixed with slavic undertones from the previous barbaric invasions of the european continent from the east and the Anatolian region, I can tell you MOY that rcbracco is a HUGE burnt out liberal commie butthead who likes to put labels on people so his small mind can categorize and file them into neat little files and sections like black and white because he has to keep it all separate because if he couldn't label people and things, his tiny mind would explode.

That's what liberals do. Divide and enslave. It's called HISTORY.
8/28/2016 12:49 PM

Trump has appeared on Fox News and Fox Business 18 times in August — and on all other networks twice.

Trump was interviewed by Anderson Cooper on Thursday, his first appearance on CNN since June 13. He also did a phone interview this month with CNBC.

LOL. THIS IS WHAT MITT DID IN 12'. APPEAR MOSTLY ON FOX. NICE REACH-OUT TO BROADEN THE BASE!

8/28/2016 12:53 PM (edited)
Posted by bronxcheer on 8/28/2016 12:53:00 PM (view original):

Trump has appeared on Fox News and Fox Business 18 times in August — and on all other networks twice.

Trump was interviewed by Anderson Cooper on Thursday, his first appearance on CNN since June 13. He also did a phone interview this month with CNBC.

LOL. THIS IS WHAT MITT DID IN 12'. APPEAR MOSTLY ON FOX. NICE REACH-OUT TO BROADEN THE BASE!

Hillary gets face time everyday everywhere. And she is defended by the new political wing of the party most of us refer to as the media.

WHY HASN'T HILLARY APPEARED ON FOX 18 TIMES?!?!?!?!?!?

She's hiding folks. The more people see of her, the less they like her. Everytime she shows her face or speaks, she drops in the polls.

The only reason the old commie left media, bought and paid for and carrying the torch for the leftism taught to them and drilled into their little heads in government systems fifty years and beyond in the making, is a weakness of moral character. These children are polished with a thin veneer of truth layered with dogmatic teachings from a government opposed to family. As the government grows, the family weakens and civilizations fail.

The Old Government was less intrusive.

The New Government is already here.

There can be little debate if it gets here.

The final question is when.

I choose later. I have little desire to live in a big government bureaucracy run by idiots funded by my tax money and more concerned with retirement and vacation as opposed to their job. And when jobs become an issue their first recourse is strike. And the amount of money they are jacked out of goes into the pockets of the BOSS and the political machine eating away and destroying the rest of the nation for the benefit of the few.

I guess you'll have to defame me. You'll have to do it to all of us. Your neighbors and family. And I will fight you till the day I die.

I'm not as stupid and willing as you. Lay over. You don't like it? Come and take it.
8/28/2016 1:47 PM
Yeah, appearing on CNN will get Trump some votes. Dumbass.

If you're not voting Trump now, you're not going to suddenly like him in two months.
8/28/2016 1:52 PM
Posted by DougOut on 8/28/2016 12:49:00 PM (view original):
As a evangelical presbyter from Lutheran heritage directly from the catholic church with some italian and german-scots irish blood with Frankish origins and slave blood mixed with slavic undertones from the previous barbaric invasions of the european continent from the east and the Anatolian region, I can tell you MOY that rcbracco is a HUGE burnt out liberal commie butthead who likes to put labels on people so his small mind can categorize and file them into neat little files and sections like black and white because he has to keep it all separate because if he couldn't label people and things, his tiny mind would explode.

That's what liberals do. Divide and enslave. It's called HISTORY.
Here is your label Dougie............Psychopath!

Nice that you took time to comment on the issue er I guess not. Attack the liberal. That gets you points with your Klan.
8/28/2016 2:23 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/28/2016 1:52:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, appearing on CNN will get Trump some votes. Dumbass.

If you're not voting Trump now, you're not going to suddenly like him in two months.
Your right on the face of it but what new votes does he pick up on Fox? Why not take a shot at something new?
8/28/2016 2:27 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/28/2016 1:52:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, appearing on CNN will get Trump some votes. Dumbass.

If you're not voting Trump now, you're not going to suddenly like him in two months.
Which is why this is going to be a blowout.
8/28/2016 2:34 PM
Posted by RCBracco on 8/28/2016 2:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/28/2016 1:52:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, appearing on CNN will get Trump some votes. Dumbass.

If you're not voting Trump now, you're not going to suddenly like him in two months.
Your right on the face of it but what new votes does he pick up on Fox? Why not take a shot at something new?
He's only 3-5% behind crooked Hillary and that's with only 75% of Republicans behind him. He stands a lot to gain from being in fox. Hillary is at 90% of the Democrat vote already.
8/28/2016 3:00 PM (edited)
Posted by RCBracco on 8/28/2016 2:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/28/2016 1:52:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, appearing on CNN will get Trump some votes. Dumbass.

If you're not voting Trump now, you're not going to suddenly like him in two months.
Your right on the face of it but what new votes does he pick up on Fox? Why not take a shot at something new?
That's why allmoy23 support Trumps. "He's something new!!!"

But the reason to not appear on CNN is obvious. Watch FOX News then flip to CNN after 5 minutes. FOX talks Hillary emails, CNN talks about whatever stupid thing Trump said the night before. It's like both networks are running a campaign not a news outlet.
8/28/2016 3:16 PM
It does not matter what the network is broadcasting it is the viewers you want to reach. But you are right, no one is going to not have their mind made up already about this election.
8/28/2016 4:43 PM
It matters in how they'll be treated. Hillary goes on FOX, she'll get questions she'd rather not answer. Same with Trump on CNN. Hillary can go on Kimmel because he'll ask her to open a pickle jar.
8/28/2016 5:25 PM
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