Posted by MikeT23 on 4/13/2016 11:22:00 AM (view original):
I don't really need proof. But that's a taint/BL thing. "TRUMP ISN'T WORTH 10 BILLION!!!" taint wants proof without providing anything stating he isn't and BL says Trump pulled that number out of his *** then BL pulls a different number from his own ***.

They're both pretty retarded on this subject.

It's all irrelevant. People can and often do cook the books to make their net worth look how they want it to look.

Plus, in the end . . . $4B or $10B is still a lot more than most everybody in the world is worth. So what does it matter what the number is once the "B" is suffixed to the number?

Posted by tecwrg on 4/13/2016 12:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 4/13/2016 11:22:00 AM (view original):
I don't really need proof. But that's a taint/BL thing. "TRUMP ISN'T WORTH 10 BILLION!!!" taint wants proof without providing anything stating he isn't and BL says Trump pulled that number out of his *** then BL pulls a different number from his own ***.

They're both pretty retarded on this subject.

It's all irrelevant. People can and often do cook the books to make their net worth look how they want it to look.

Plus, in the end . . . $4B or $10B is still a lot more than most everybody in the world is worth. So what does it matter what the number is once the "B" is suffixed to the number?

Yep. Now you're seeing the big picture ;)

Looking at these polls, Trump could take 200+ delegates of the 223 remaining this month. That's way more than BL's mancrush predicted. +12 from Missouri.

Posted by moy23 on 4/13/2016 12:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 4/13/2016 12:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 4/13/2016 11:22:00 AM (view original):
I don't really need proof. But that's a taint/BL thing. "TRUMP ISN'T WORTH 10 BILLION!!!" taint wants proof without providing anything stating he isn't and BL says Trump pulled that number out of his *** then BL pulls a different number from his own ***.

They're both pretty retarded on this subject.

It's all irrelevant. People can and often do cook the books to make their net worth look how they want it to look.

Plus, in the end . . . $4B or $10B is still a lot more than most everybody in the world is worth. So what does it matter what the number is once the "B" is suffixed to the number?

Yep. Now you're seeing the big picture ;)

WTF is "the big picture" you're alluding to?

Posted by moy23 on 4/13/2016 1:00:00 PM (view original):
Looking at these polls, Trump could take 200+ delegates of the 223 remaining this month. That's way more than BL's mancrush predicted. +12 from Missouri.

You keep saying that like I don't want Trump to be the nominee. I do. I just don't think he will.

Posted by bad_luck on 4/13/2016 12:14:00 PM (view original):
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You're still operating under the idea that Trump needs votes. He need delegates. Without them, the party will absolutely have a choice.

It doesn't matter how he is polling if he is falling short of 1237. And, partly because he missed out on any delegates in CO, he is falling short of 1237.

Edit:
Again, I want Trump to be the GOP nominee. But if he can't effectively run his campaign within the established party rules, then there is no way he's going to convince the party that he would be viable in the November election or a good President if elected.

You never responded to this moy.

If Trump has a good rest of April, he'll add ~180 delegates. Even if he does well in CA and takes all of NJ, he's still going to be 60-70 delegates short of 1237.

He won't be the nominee.

Posted by bad_luck on 4/13/2016 1:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 4/13/2016 12:14:00 PM (view original):
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You're still operating under the idea that Trump needs votes. He need delegates. Without them, the party will absolutely have a choice.

It doesn't matter how he is polling if he is falling short of 1237. And, partly because he missed out on any delegates in CO, he is falling short of 1237.

Edit:
Again, I want Trump to be the GOP nominee. But if he can't effectively run his campaign within the established party rules, then there is no way he's going to convince the party that he would be viable in the November election or a good President if elected.

You never responded to this moy.

If Trump has a good rest of April, he'll add ~180 delegates. Even if he does well in CA and takes all of NJ, he's still going to be 60-70 delegates short of 1237.

He won't be the nominee.

The votes give Trump leverage. If he comes into the convention 60-70 short there are still 125 uncommitted delegates he can get a portion of. I think it will be much closer to 1209 like your mancrush predicts which is only 30 delegates away.... That's assuming Trumps momentum doesn't carry him there via a big win in California.

The reason why it's highly unlikely a guy like Mitt or Ryan won't be nominated is not because of the delegates, but because of the votes. The establishment knows either Cruz or Trump need to come out of this or they will have angered 80% of their voters. That's the Leverage. There will be tremendous pressure from the populous of their home states on the uncommitted delegates to vote for Trump if he is close to 1237..... Trump is setting the stage by building up the pressure now. Watch and you will see.

Posted by moy23 on 4/13/2016 2:24:00 PM (view original):
The reason why it's highly unlikely a guy like Mitt or Ryan won't be nominated is not because of the delegates, but because of the votes. The establishment knows either Cruz or Trump need to come out of this or they will have angered 80% of their voters. That's the Leverage. There will be tremendous pressure from the populous of their home states on the uncommitted delegates to vote for Trump if he is close to 1237..... Trump is setting the stage by building up the pressure now. Watch and you will see.

The establishment also knows that Trump doesn't stand a chance in November against Hillary.

And Hillary hasn't even started on misogynistic bigoted Trump yet.

Unfortunately, if Trump is even 1 delegate short of 1237 on the first ballot, he's done. The nomination will go to Cruz or Kasich or Ryan (despite his denial).

Posted by tecwrg on 4/13/2016 2:31:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 4/13/2016 2:24:00 PM (view original):
The reason why it's highly unlikely a guy like Mitt or Ryan won't be nominated is not because of the delegates, but because of the votes. The establishment knows either Cruz or Trump need to come out of this or they will have angered 80% of their voters. That's the Leverage. There will be tremendous pressure from the populous of their home states on the uncommitted delegates to vote for Trump if he is close to 1237..... Trump is setting the stage by building up the pressure now. Watch and you will see.

The establishment also knows that Trump doesn't stand a chance in November against Hillary.

And Hillary hasn't even started on misogynistic bigoted Trump yet.

Nobody KNOWS that. Just 2 months ago you and MikeT 'knew' trumps act would have fizzled out by now. Remember?

Yet you insist that "the establishment knows either Cruz or Trump need to come out of this . . . "

Poll	Date	Sample	MoE	Clinton (D)	Trump (R)	Spread
RCP Average	3/16 - 4/2	--	--	49.1	38.7	Clinton +10.4
McClatchy/Marist	3/29 - 3/31	1066 RV	3.0	50	41	Clinton +9
IBD/TIPP	3/28 - 4/2	819 RV	3.5	47	35	Clinton +12
PPP (D)	3/24 - 3/26	1083 RV	3.0	48	41	Clinton +7
FOX News	3/20 - 3/22	1016 RV	3.0	49	38	Clinton +11
Bloomberg	3/19 - 3/22	815 LV	3.4	54	36	Clinton +18
Quinnipiac	3/16 - 3/21	1451 RV	2.6	46	40	Clinton +6
CBS News/NY Times	3/17 - 3/20	1058 RV	4.0	50	40	Clinton +10

All General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Polling Data

Posted by moy23 on 4/13/2016 2:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 4/13/2016 2:31:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 4/13/2016 2:24:00 PM (view original):
The reason why it's highly unlikely a guy like Mitt or Ryan won't be nominated is not because of the delegates, but because of the votes. The establishment knows either Cruz or Trump need to come out of this or they will have angered 80% of their voters. That's the Leverage. There will be tremendous pressure from the populous of their home states on the uncommitted delegates to vote for Trump if he is close to 1237..... Trump is setting the stage by building up the pressure now. Watch and you will see.

The establishment also knows that Trump doesn't stand a chance in November against Hillary.

And Hillary hasn't even started on misogynistic bigoted Trump yet.

Nobody KNOWS that. Just 2 months ago you and MikeT 'knew' trumps act would have fizzled out by now. Remember?

I hear fizzling now. Remove Trump's nut from your ears and you'll hear it too!!