Bad, bad day for Clinton in important swing States.

She p*sses-off Californians by bailing on a debate with Sanders. This, after whining and crying about the importance of a similar debate between her and Obama 4 years ago. Another example of her "Do as I say, not as I do." and "Rules are for other people." attitudes.

In PA, the Democrats are totally scr*wing things up and fighting again. Makes it very difficult for any Pennsylvanians to vote for any Democrat.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/24/2016 5:41:00 PM (view original):
Your friends are idiots. What's Clinton's vote lead? 3 million? In what universe should she deserve to lose?

Well, part of this is the superdelegate system and delegate allocation. I feel like every time I've logged in to check Democratic Primary voting results (and Sanders has won), the delegate count has been even, or almost even. In fact, the counters (e.g. on Politico) usually register large delegate counts for Hillary even before the voting results begin appearing (with maybe 0 or 1 delegate for Sanders).

Hillary has basically been hiding. Her interview questions are screened. Even her meet-and-greet events are pre-planned and staged. The DNC wanted her to win with as little "trouble" as possible; but their plan has backfired.

Also, I think it bothers a lot of people that arguably the decisive factor in her winning the majority you note (and the nomination) has been her control of the black vote. This is the woman who played the race card on Barack Obama in 2008. I think Sanders supporters believe that if African Americans had the opportunity to get to know Sanders without being smothered by the Clinton people, they would've supported Sanders instead. And they have a point, there.

Personally, I thought that one of the most telling (and disturbing) events of the primary race was that Hillary had John L Lewis (somebody of very low intellect, in my opinion) claim that he never saw Sanders around during the Civil Rights movement, and didn't believe he actually participated. Then the Chicago Tribune located photos of Sanders being dragged off by police at a Civil Rights protest in the 1960's. Hillary Clinton put John Lewis up to that statement, obviously. He's a devout Clinton supporter. Disgusting. Pure politics.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/24/2016 6:24:00 PM (view original):
Clinton getting more votes and winning is not the sign of a rigged system. If Sanders were winning with a 3 million vote deficit (or losing with a 3 million vote lead), complaints would be justified.

True, but one of the integral elements of civil society and jurisprudence is the appearance of justice. Being fair is not enough. It has to LOOK fair for people to accept it. My THC-riddled friends don't feel Sanders got a fair chance. And irrespective of Hillary's gross overall vote majority, many Democrats/Sanders supporters feel that way. And so, one of the biggest electoral questions now is, "what happens with the Sanders people?"

Edit: Also, don't forget, on the Republican side, what killed Cruz's momentum and finished him off (according to many experts) was his "wins" when there was no vote. That's when people finally settled on Trump.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/24/2016 6:24:00 PM (view original):
Clinton getting more votes and winning is not the sign of a rigged system. If Sanders were winning with a 3 million vote deficit (or losing with a 3 million vote lead), complaints would be justified.

Hillary having 12 mil to bernies 9 gives her a 4 to 3 edge and is quite daunting.

However:

The election would not be over with a lot of western power states left to vote who would even things up.

Except:

Hillary has an unfair and unjustified 11 to 1 lead in stupid delegates.

Therefore:

The election will now end prematurely and the natural course of things will not be allowed to take place because Hillary has the stupid delegates in a rigged system.

And so:

Without the stupid delegates and rigged election the DemoNazis are running here, the election would go on with exciting and telling and healthy results for an honest party and the citizens they claim to represent.

Unfortunately:

The party of Hillary is not honest. The system is rigged. Former clinton employees including the underpaid women, now pollute the news media. They lie to you every evening. Your mainstream is simply an extension of the propaganda machine that is the leftist democrat party. It is why women are leaving. Hispanics are leaving. Independents and libertarians have crashed the gates and broken down the walls in an effort to distance themselves from THE JOKE. Bernie supporters simply will not vote for Crooked Hillary and an unsettling proportion will vote for Trump as a payback for what their dysfunctional party has done to them. And as Republicans unite with good Americans for a majority, the sad sack establishment republicans sit on their hands or throw their money round willy nilly in a pathetic effort to pretend they still matter or their former base will actually listen to them. They even threaten to vote for Hillary.

IN CONCLUSION:

As the former power brokers of both establishment parties lose their grasp on events, and their former supporters use their new found power in the internet to reach out and across to each other and exchange ideas, those powers cast out will either continue to use their media and money to control you, or simply smash you. Perhaps with a velvet glove or money. They do not intend to lose. What happens next will be interesting…not only because it is always unknown, but because for the first time in a long time……there is a third player. And he wasn't invited to the party.

Posted by all3 on 5/24/2016 5:56:00 PM (view original):
Bad, bad day for Clinton in important swing States.

She p*sses-off Californians by bailing on a debate with Sanders. This, after whining and crying about the importance of a similar debate between her and Obama 4 years ago. Another example of her "Do as I say, not as I do." and "Rules are for other people." attitudes.

In PA, the Democrats are totally scr*wing things up and fighting again. Makes it very difficult for any Pennsylvanians to vote for any Democrat.

California a swing state eh?


Puff puff pass

Posted by bad_luck on 5/24/2016 8:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Bernie10025 on 5/24/2016 7:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/24/2016 6:24:00 PM (view original):
Clinton getting more votes and winning is not the sign of a rigged system. If Sanders were winning with a 3 million vote deficit (or losing with a 3 million vote lead), complaints would be justified.

True, but one of the integral elements of civil society and jurisprudence is the appearance of justice. Being fair is not enough. It has to LOOK fair for people to accept it. My THC-riddled friends don't feel Sanders got a fair chance. And irrespective of Hillary's gross overall vote majority, many Democrats/Sanders supporters feel that way. And so, one of the biggest electoral questions now is, "what happens with the Sanders people?"

Edit: Also, don't forget, on the Republican side, what killed Cruz's momentum and finished him off (according to many experts) was his "wins" when there was no vote. That's when people finally settled on Trump.

What finished Cruz off was the fact that he has the charisma of a sewer rat.

Sanders voters will ho to Clinton just like Clinton voters went to Obama. 2008 was a much nastier and more contentious battle that discover after the convention.

It's a young voters block that supports Bernie..... not the likeliest bunch to get to the voters booth come election day, especially to go vote for crooked Hillary.... dull crooked Hillary.

Who the **** are you clowns kidding? Whoever yells "Free stuff!!!" first gets Sanders' voters.

Call me a racist if you must but this country is not ready for an orange president

I suppose I should post the numbers. They are cruel.

The millennial nation is turned bernie. As Ed Rendell said recently, Hillary and the DemoNazi party, have the ugly woman vote locked up because democrat women are ugly. Former Governor of PA and former mayor of Philly, where the convention is being held and cops are murdered daily, wants you to know that as you walk down the street and gaze upon a woman that you might consider UGLY, that's gonna be a vote for ugly Hillary. Same city Obama had the beer summit after he put his dick in his mouth. Makes sense in a weird DemoNazi way.

BUT THE NUMBERS! The numbers are cruel. 40% Sanders voters will not vote for Hillary. The millennial generation that voted for OBAMA and still doesn't have a job and who have given up on life ………. a lost generation cast into a welfare system not unlike Tiny Tim in the Christmas Carol …….. Will not even bother to leave their parents basement to vote. 20% of bernie Dems will pull the lever for Trump. Much like southern America during the democrat imposed slavery upon free souls, this is turning into yet another LOST CAUSE!

AND the very people who preach peace and equality while practicing deceit and voter fraud, have lost their base. Just like the republican establishment have lost their most loyal voters.

You can fool most of the people but when you jump the political shark, the people will push the reset button. Not Sillary.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/24/2016 8:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Bernie10025 on 5/24/2016 7:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/24/2016 6:24:00 PM (view original):
Clinton getting more votes and winning is not the sign of a rigged system. If Sanders were winning with a 3 million vote deficit (or losing with a 3 million vote lead), complaints would be justified.

True, but one of the integral elements of civil society and jurisprudence is the appearance of justice. Being fair is not enough. It has to LOOK fair for people to accept it. My THC-riddled friends don't feel Sanders got a fair chance. And irrespective of Hillary's gross overall vote majority, many Democrats/Sanders supporters feel that way. And so, one of the biggest electoral questions now is, "what happens with the Sanders people?"

Edit: Also, don't forget, on the Republican side, what killed Cruz's momentum and finished him off (according to many experts) was his "wins" when there was no vote. That's when people finally settled on Trump.

What finished Cruz off was the fact that he has the charisma of a sewer rat.

Sanders voters will ho to Clinton just like Clinton voters went to Obama. 2008 was a much nastier and more contentious battle that discover after the convention.

I heard a DENNIS KUCINICH interview on the radio recently. He refused to commit to endorsing Hillary and said that Trump stands for many of the principles he's supported during his career. He also pointed out that his own views closely reflect the majority (white working-class) demographic in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc.

You're crazy to compare this situation to 2008. Obama had charisma. Clinton is a crotchety old misanthrope/misandryst (sp?) whose campaign platform has been to co-opt the policy agenda of a Democratic Socialist. All the polling shows that a sizable portion of Sanders supporters will likely support Trump. I'm sure Moy can confirm that in a jiffy. :-)

I agree with you about Cruz, but a lot of Republicans liked him anyway. God knows why. You cannot deny that he was doing relatively well against Trump. Then came his Colorado and New Mexico "victories," and his campaign just died. Too many people were ****** off. And he wouldn't even speak about what he was doing in interviews. A total slimeball. A creep. But now people are uniting around Trump, who is personally far more likable than Cruz, or of course Hillary.

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/24/2016 8:27:00 PM (view original):
Who the **** are you clowns kidding? Whoever yells "Free stuff!!!" first gets Sanders' voters.

Well with young people, yes. Trump already has the elderly covered by promising not to cut Medicare.

Posted by RCBracco on 5/24/2016 9:02:00 PM (view original):
Call me a racist if you must but this country is not ready for an orange president

But oopma loompas are cute!!!