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Posted by bad_luck on 6/6/2014 3:39:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 6/6/2014 2:07:00 PM (view original):
If you want to be successful, try really hard to be a white male.
Some of us have succeeded without being white.

Which removes the excuse for non-whites.  It must be some other variable that is making them unsuccessful.

I call it WORK ETHIC.
So the exceptions disprove the rule?

Are blacks, Hispanics, and women lazier, in general, than white males?
I don't know.  I just know that Japanese-Americans, to be specific, were stripped of all their belongings, imprisoned without cause for years, and SOMEHOW, have managed to overcome these hurdles, and become productive, useful contributors to society.  Other groups have had affirmative action laws, accelerated citizenship concessions, and handouts galore... and still are complaining that they "deserve" more.

So, draw your own conclusions.
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Still doesn't change the fact that being a white male gives you the best shot of success in America.
6/6/2014 3:54 PM
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As much as I hate to admit it, Asians do work harder than other races.   That's just a general statement as I'm sure there are lazyfuck Asians running around.   But, if you look at the difference in societies, as a whole, it's pretty evident that some value education and hard work more than others. 

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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/6/2014 3:54:00 PM (view original):

As much as I hate to admit it, Asians do work harder than other races.   That's just a general statement as I'm sure there are lazyfuck Asians running around.   But, if you look at the difference in societies, as a whole, it's pretty evident that some value education and hard work more than others. 

So you're admitting that I'm better than you...

And be careful about throwing Asian around...  there are several Asian races that believe more in deception, thievery, and crime than hard work (not that crime isn't hard work)...
6/6/2014 3:58 PM
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Clearly, handouts to the poor AREN'T helping solve the core problem, which depending on your point of view... is either lack of marketable skills or lack of opportunity to learn those skills (or lack of work ethic).  

I'd be very interested to hear if there is a solution that does NOT involve simply giving away money to people who don't work and have no skills.  Besides my solution, that is...
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Posted by toddcommish on 6/6/2014 3:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/6/2014 3:54:00 PM (view original):

As much as I hate to admit it, Asians do work harder than other races.   That's just a general statement as I'm sure there are lazyfuck Asians running around.   But, if you look at the difference in societies, as a whole, it's pretty evident that some value education and hard work more than others. 

So you're admitting that I'm better than you...

And be careful about throwing Asian around...  there are several Asian races that believe more in deception, thievery, and crime than hard work (not that crime isn't hard work)...

Nah, I assume you're the exception.   Lazyfuck dicking around on the internet when he should be playing with his abacus.

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But you might have a hot sister doing Asian porn.    So there's that.
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Posted by toddcommish on 6/6/2014 4:01:00 PM (view original):
Clearly, handouts to the poor AREN'T helping solve the core problem, which depending on your point of view... is either lack of marketable skills or lack of opportunity to learn those skills (or lack of work ethic).  

I'd be very interested to hear if there is a solution that does NOT involve simply giving away money to people who don't work and have no skills.  Besides my solution, that is...
I'd like to see public policy adjusted so that less wealth is accumulated at the top. I'd like labor laws to be strengthened in favor of labor, including laws to strengthen unions.

I'd like to see the education system reformed so that the difference between good and bad public schools is smaller.

I'd like to see improvements in housing and child care subsidies.
6/6/2014 4:10 PM
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And here we come full circle from other BL threads.

Let's punish the rich and successful people for being rich and successful.  And white.  And for having dicks.

Yeah, that seems fair.
6/6/2014 4:26 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 6/6/2014 4:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by toddcommish on 6/6/2014 4:01:00 PM (view original):
Clearly, handouts to the poor AREN'T helping solve the core problem, which depending on your point of view... is either lack of marketable skills or lack of opportunity to learn those skills (or lack of work ethic).  

I'd be very interested to hear if there is a solution that does NOT involve simply giving away money to people who don't work and have no skills.  Besides my solution, that is...
I'd like to see public policy adjusted so that less wealth is accumulated at the top. I'd like labor laws to be strengthened in favor of labor, including laws to strengthen unions.

I'd like to see the education system reformed so that the difference between good and bad public schools is smaller.

I'd like to see improvements in housing and child care subsidies.
Why not let the hard-working KEEP their riches?  I'm in favor of cutting back on inherited wealth, but why are you so set on penalizing those that work hard (and/or smart) and succeed?

Your way basically says "If you're poor, the best you can hope for is middle class, because if you make it to upper class, we're taking it all back."  WHICH IS ******* STUPID.  

Unions favor the lazy and the stupid, so it makes sense that you would encourage them.

6/6/2014 4:39 PM
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Posted by tecwrg on 6/6/2014 4:26:00 PM (view original):
And here we come full circle from other BL threads.

Let's punish the rich and successful people for being rich and successful.  And white.  And for having dicks.

Yeah, that seems fair.
I don't want to punish anyone. Do you not think that lobbyists are pushing for public policy that allows more wealth to accumulate at the top?

Who is there to push back for everyone else? (Don't say Democrats because, facts).
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If you don't push back for yourself, YGWYD
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Posted by toddcommish on 6/6/2014 4:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/6/2014 4:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by toddcommish on 6/6/2014 4:01:00 PM (view original):
Clearly, handouts to the poor AREN'T helping solve the core problem, which depending on your point of view... is either lack of marketable skills or lack of opportunity to learn those skills (or lack of work ethic).  

I'd be very interested to hear if there is a solution that does NOT involve simply giving away money to people who don't work and have no skills.  Besides my solution, that is...
I'd like to see public policy adjusted so that less wealth is accumulated at the top. I'd like labor laws to be strengthened in favor of labor, including laws to strengthen unions.

I'd like to see the education system reformed so that the difference between good and bad public schools is smaller.

I'd like to see improvements in housing and child care subsidies.
Why not let the hard-working KEEP their riches?  I'm in favor of cutting back on inherited wealth, but why are you so set on penalizing those that work hard (and/or smart) and succeed?

Your way basically says "If you're poor, the best you can hope for is middle class, because if you make it to upper class, we're taking it all back."  WHICH IS ******* STUPID.  

Unions favor the lazy and the stupid, so it makes sense that you would encourage them.

Who's arguing to take it all away? We all agree that a 0% tax rate won't work, right? And we all agree that a 100% tax rate won't work either, right? The right number is somewhere in between. Whether the top rate is 30% or 38% or 50%, no one is being punished for working hard.

And it isn't just taxes. Public policy affects how money moves through the economy, things like wages laws, intellectual property rights, internet broadband laws, SEC rules, etc., can all be used to concentrate wealth, raise barriers to entry, and reduce competition.

6/6/2014 4:46 PM
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Posted by toddcommish on 6/6/2014 4:42:00 PM (view original):
If you don't push back for yourself, YGWYD
So you make $8 an hour. What can you do?

At that point, all you really have is a single vote (assuming you don't live in a state that is actively trying to make it harder for you to vote). You're powerless.
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Posted by toddcommish on 6/6/2014 4:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/6/2014 4:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by toddcommish on 6/6/2014 4:01:00 PM (view original):
Clearly, handouts to the poor AREN'T helping solve the core problem, which depending on your point of view... is either lack of marketable skills or lack of opportunity to learn those skills (or lack of work ethic).  

I'd be very interested to hear if there is a solution that does NOT involve simply giving away money to people who don't work and have no skills.  Besides my solution, that is...
I'd like to see public policy adjusted so that less wealth is accumulated at the top. I'd like labor laws to be strengthened in favor of labor, including laws to strengthen unions.

I'd like to see the education system reformed so that the difference between good and bad public schools is smaller.

I'd like to see improvements in housing and child care subsidies.
Why not let the hard-working KEEP their riches?  I'm in favor of cutting back on inherited wealth, but why are you so set on penalizing those that work hard (and/or smart) and succeed?

Your way basically says "If you're poor, the best you can hope for is middle class, because if you make it to upper class, we're taking it all back."  WHICH IS ******* STUPID.  

Unions favor the lazy and the stupid, so it makes sense that you would encourage them.

LOL.  Dumbing down America.

"Yes, if you work hard and become successful, we're just going to have to cut you down a notch.   We can't have rich, successful people in this country."
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