MLB: a bag of a**holes. Topic

tecwrg
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Well I know I'm certainly not bitter when interacting with you in these forums. 

In fact, you amuse me. 

Like a clown.
5/22/2014 11:56 AM
bad_luck
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I'm glad that we are mutually amused by our interactions.
5/22/2014 12:07 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/22/2014 10:42:00 AM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 5/22/2014 10:20:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 5/22/2014 10:17:00 AM (view original):
OK, good point.

BL is a moron.  And BABIP is a dumb stat.  Or, at least, very poorly named.

I'm sorry that you don't understand its purpose.
Ooops.  burnsyluck483 is filling in today.
It's just a little sad when someone doesn't understand an idea, so he calls it dumb.  
5/22/2014 2:40 PM
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Are you sure he doesn't understand it?   Maybe he just doesn't like it because a ball hit 370 feet may or may not qualify to be a part of the stat.
5/22/2014 3:06 PM
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Seems like he doesn't understand it. His original comment:

"BABIP inexplicably excludes HR's"


in·ex·pli·ca·ble

 adjective \?i-nik-'spli-k?-b?l, (?)i-'nek-(?)spli-\

: not able to be explained or understood


5/22/2014 4:03 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/22/2014 3:06:00 PM (view original):
Are you sure he doesn't understand it?   Maybe he just doesn't like it because a ball hit 370 feet may or may not qualify to be a part of the stat.
I'm not sure of anything.  But it sounds like he doesn't understand the concept of the stat.
5/22/2014 4:31 PM
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Seems like he has a different idea of "ball in play".      Probably because a ball hit 370 feet to dead center qualifies as "in play" whereas, if hit to LF, it's not.    All balls hit 370 feet are not created equal and BABIP doesn't really seem to take very much of the actual game into account.
5/22/2014 4:38 PM
bad_luck
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Seems like he has a different idea of "ball in play"
That's a problem.
5/22/2014 4:42 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/22/2014 4:38:00 PM (view original):
Seems like he has a different idea of "ball in play".      Probably because a ball hit 370 feet to dead center qualifies as "in play" whereas, if hit to LF, it's not.    All balls hit 370 feet are not created equal and BABIP doesn't really seem to take very much of the actual game into account.
It takes into account all balls in the playing field.  There's a reason why the stat exists.  Including home runs defeats the purpose.  It seems you don't get the reason why people look at the stat as well.
5/22/2014 4:50 PM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 5/22/2014 10:18:00 AM (view original):
OBP IS STOOPID BECAUSE IF I HIT A FIELDER'S CHOICE I'M ON BASE.  IT SHOULD BE CALLED OBPUIHIAFC.
I have a different concept of on base percentage.  Stupid stat.
5/22/2014 4:51 PM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 5/22/2014 4:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/22/2014 4:38:00 PM (view original):
Seems like he has a different idea of "ball in play".      Probably because a ball hit 370 feet to dead center qualifies as "in play" whereas, if hit to LF, it's not.    All balls hit 370 feet are not created equal and BABIP doesn't really seem to take very much of the actual game into account.
It takes into account all balls in the playing field.  There's a reason why the stat exists.  Including home runs defeats the purpose.  It seems you don't get the reason why people look at the stat as well.

Do you not think that someone can understand a stat and just not like it, badluckjr?

 

5/22/2014 5:00 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2014 12:41:00 PM (view original):
By definition, the IP stands for "in play".    HR aren't "in play".    The designers of BABIP were trying to exclude luck in fielding, I assume, and there is no fielding luck involved in HR.    So I don't know that it's flawed by excluding HR.   It's just not relevant to "whiff vs. other outs" discussions. 
This, burnsyluck.
5/22/2014 5:04 PM
bad_luck
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If he understood the stat he wouldn't say, "BABIP inexplicably excludes HR's"
5/22/2014 5:04 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/22/2014 10:07:00 AM (view original):
For ****'s sake, tec, stop arguing about BABIP.    You think it's a dumb stat but it is what it is.   You can't argue what it is.
And this.
5/22/2014 5:06 PM
bad_luck
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Oh, ok, so it's just tec that doesn't understand babip. Not mike.

Got it.
5/22/2014 5:17 PM
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