Stagecoach - Walter 'Big Train' Johnson  1907

We have our first trade in the league: 

sooners07 sends me his 3rd round pick (Midwest) and his fifth round pick (Pennsylvania) for my 3rd round pick (Pennsylvania). 

To be confirmed by sooners07

(ps can't wait till we all start getting some regions in rounds we don't want them that badly and pick some ballparks so I will have team names and places to refer to, but it will be a while before that happens I think). 

Dont trades have to be even?? 2 picks for 2 picks??

Round 2:

benfc	Atlantic Coast			Jimmy Foxx 1B 1927
italyprof	Down the Mississippi			Yogi Berra C 1947
grayfoxx	Ohio			Cy Young P 1890
chargingryno	Rest of the World			Ichiro Suzuki OF 2001
cleonjones	Caribbean			Manny Ramirez OF 1994
shawbigred	New York			Warren Spahn P 1946
stroh23	Dixie			Mr. Henry Aaron  OF 1954
cardsfan	Illinois			Joe McGinnity P 1900
crazyamos	California pre-1990			round 1: Ted Williams OF 1939  round 2: Tom Seaver P  1967
sooners07	Texarkana			Rogers Hornsby 2B 1915
shysters3	Calfornia 1990 on			Randy Johnson P 1988
dnmchill	Stagecoach			Walter Johnson P 1907
coloradokid	New England			Tim Keefe P 1885
bagchucker	Pennsylvania			Honus Wagner SS 1897
bublooo	Midwest Progressivism			Al Simmons OF 1924
mini157	Appalachia

Jesse Burkette P 1890  (sorry had some spacing problems with the excel paste here)


Players already selected: (by region): 

Atlantic Coast                Babe Ruth     Jimmy Foxx 

California pre-1990         Ted Williams   Tom Seaver

California 1990 on         Barry Bonds   Randy Johnson 

 Ohio                                    George Sisler    Cy Young  

Texarkana                          Ernie Banks   Rogers Hornsby

 New York                             Lou Gehrig      Warren Spahn 

Midwestern                          Addie Joss    Al Simmons

Down the Mississippi          Carl Hubbell     Yogi Berra 

  Illinois                                     Rickey Henderson     Joe McGinnity

New England                           Nap Lajoie           Tim Keefe 

Pennsylvania                          Stan Musial  Honus Wagner

 Stagecoach                           Mickey Mantle   Walter Johnson

Dixie                                          Ty Cobb  Henry Aaron 

 Rest of World                        Mariano Rivera     Ichiro Suzuki 

 Caribbean                               Albert Pujols   Manny Ramirez

Appalachia                              George Brett   Jesse Burkette 

Grayfoxx, I was a little surprised to get the offer. But a trade always involves someone's estimate of the worth of a player or pick compared with other players or picks. 

If you look closely at what sooners07 is obtaining you can probably figure out what he wants for round 3 and he sees that player as worth more than who is available in the region he was assigned randomly plus what will be in Pennsylvania around round 5. 

I on the other hand think that there is good value, and while I would not have traded the players available in the two regions in round 3 one for one, think it worthwhile to make this choice. 

Since I can only draft 30 players maximum plus a stadium I can't use more than 31 draft picks. So either I will do serious research to determine if pick no. 31 is worth having or will look to trade a different round for a player or pick. 

Speaking of which I have not made any rules about trades so far, except that they are allowed. I don't really like vetoes in progressive trades and I also don't have a problem with people trading future picks - though in the latter case since an owner may leave and strand a new owner without draft picks, let's say no vetoes and you can trade up to 3 seasons from now draft picks. 

If anyone really doesn't like either rule let me know and we can put these up to a vote. 

As for this trade, since it is a new league and involves the commissioner, I will offer sooners07 my round 20 pick (New York) for the sake of symmetry and transparency. I have no idea who the 20th best player is from NY but am happy to include that in the trade as it can help sooners07 get to 30 players. 

Posted by italyprof on 7/9/2014 5:29:00 PM (view original):
As for this trade, since it is a new league and involves the commissioner, I will offer sooners07 my round 20 pick (New York) for the sake of symmetry and transparency. I have no idea who the 20th best player is from NY but am happy to include that in the trade as it can help sooners07 get to 30 players. 

you could adopt the NWP rule that all uneven draft pick trades include the teams gaining the extra pick's last pick in the draft.  

So this trade would include Italy's 31st round pick

That is a good general rule ryno and I will adopt it for this league too.

But in the case of this trade, since I am one of the participants, and acting as one of the participants rather than with the commissioner's hat (davy crocket hat of course) I will add my 20th rounder. 

So it is: 

sooners'7 sends his 3rd round pick (Midwest) and 5th round pick (Pennsylvania) to italyprof for italyprof's 3rd round pick (Pennsylvania) and 20th round pick (New York). 

sooners07 to confirm. 

We still have 5 picks we need made in round 2. 

Tough call out of Dixie, but I will pick Hank Aaron 1954

I think sooners is making me wait as long as possible to know who I will get in round 3 :) 

alright - I've got my picks through round 7 planned out - everyone else needs to get on my level of boredom/excitement

Best available--'88 Randy Johnson--P

well, i just worked a 12 and now i have four trade offers to sift through

whats so GD great about Pennsylvania?

oh yeah, my gramma

I have 5 New York picks in this draft.  (Rounds: 5, 10, 11, 16, 23) - I am looking to trade round for round a Pennsylvania pick.  Round 5 for round 5...etc 

Let me know if interested.