nice work

Posted by felonius on 9/1/2014 8:13:00 AM (view original):
nice work

Thanks!

Great stuff eleibowitz. You really nailed my team, exactly what I was thinking, George either sinks this team or makes it a contender.

Name	Min	Def	Usage%	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%
Bill Bridges	3269	80	15.7	49.4	10.4	23.2	10.9
Gerald Wallace	3119	90	20.4	51.1	5.5	21.6	7.2
Fat Lever	3061	80	21.4	47.7	6.3	15.9	21.9
David Robinson	3019	90	28.8	51.7	12.1	23.2	10.2
Kevin Love	2797	30	29	52.4	8	28.2	15.2
Ryan Anderson	1424	54	20.5	55.8	10.4	17	4.9
Anderson Vajerao	901	60	18.8	47.8	15.5	28.6	12.3

Eleib, thanks for eval. Can't argue too much although obviously I think this is a playoff team. We'll find out!  

Mainly, I think you are only looking at eFG when evaluating the success of an offense. This team has only a 51.1% eFG, which is low, and probably why you don't like my offense. But my team also has a TOV% of less than 12%, possibly the lowest in the league. I always focus on this little used stat.  Of course, I am not the only one and many people have talked about TOV%.. but in these drafts, eFG gets thrown around so much, you'd think people were getting shots off every possession, as opposed to FT's and TOV's coming into play. Perhaps its because FG's are more reliably predicted in the SIM than FT's (which are always lower than IRL) and TOV's (which are always higher than in IRL).  But FT's and TOV's still happen a lot and it just requires understanding how much lower/higher they occur in SIM vs IRL to use the stats correctly.  Not trying to lecture anyone ; just saying that the total measure of an offense is really Pts per Use, not eFG%.

  The biggest risk is I am using the 95-96 DRob instead of the classic 89-90. The eFG drops from 53.1%-51.7% (and the Def from 100-90), but the 95 version has a 9.8% TOV rate, which is basically MJ-elite level. That should make up for the eFG gap in the seasons. His usage jumps from 26.6% to 28.8% from 89 to 95, allowing me to use DRob/Love to always have a 6pt player at Center and of course funnel more shots to DRob instead of some of my lesser guys.  Eleib is also correct I am low on assists (although never below 50% based on the lineup setup), so the 95 DRob gives me a slight bump from 7.7% -10.2% in that category. I think an argument can be made the 95 version is just as good as the 89.  

All in all, my team will have 65% Ast in starting lineup, which is hopefully high enough to support the real stregnth of the team - Rebounding. I have 154% CReb starting which is like having 5 Shaq's. Should be interesting. Good luck all, and thanks again steelers and eleib for the hard work!

Well, I hate doing this as the evals/comments are not for the purpose of owners acting on them- but I'm not going to be stupid about it either. When 4 very good players are unanimous in their thoughts, I'm not going to take it lightly and ruin an otherwise well thought out team. I'll start Mullin and complement English's 1500 minute season coming off the bench with Copeland.  

Posted by jkaye24 on 9/1/2014 9:46:00 AM (view original):

Name	Min	Def	Usage%	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%
Bill Bridges	3269	80	15.7	49.4	10.4	23.2	10.9
Gerald Wallace	3119	90	20.4	51.1	5.5	21.6	7.2
Fat Lever	3061	80	21.4	47.7	6.3	15.9	21.9
David Robinson	3019	90	28.8	51.7	12.1	23.2	10.2
Kevin Love	2797	30	29	52.4	8	28.2	15.2
Ryan Anderson	1424	54	20.5	55.8	10.4	17	4.9
Anderson Vajerao	901	60	18.8	47.8	15.5	28.6	12.3

Eleib, thanks for eval. Can't argue too much although obviously I think this is a playoff team. We'll find out!  

Mainly, I think you are only looking at eFG when evaluating the success of an offense. This team has only a 51.1% eFG, which is low, and probably why you don't like my offense. But my team also has a TOV% of less than 12%, possibly the lowest in the league. I always focus on this little used stat.  Of course, I am not the only one and many people have talked about TOV%.. but in these drafts, eFG gets thrown around so much, you'd think people were getting shots off every possession, as opposed to FT's and TOV's coming into play. Perhaps its because FG's are more reliably predicted in the SIM than FT's (which are always lower than IRL) and TOV's (which are always higher than in IRL).  But FT's and TOV's still happen a lot and it just requires understanding how much lower/higher they occur in SIM vs IRL to use the stats correctly.  Not trying to lecture anyone ; just saying that the total measure of an offense is really Pts per Use, not eFG%.

  The biggest risk is I am using the 95-96 DRob instead of the classic 89-90. The eFG drops from 53.1%-51.7% (and the Def from 100-90), but the 95 version has a 9.8% TOV rate, which is basically MJ-elite level. That should make up for the eFG gap in the seasons. His usage jumps from 26.6% to 28.8% from 89 to 95, allowing me to use DRob/Love to always have a 6pt player at Center and of course funnel more shots to DRob instead of some of my lesser guys.  Eleib is also correct I am low on assists (although never below 50% based on the lineup setup), so the 95 DRob gives me a slight bump from 7.7% -10.2% in that category. I think an argument can be made the 95 version is just as good as the 89.  

All in all, my team will have 65% Ast in starting lineup, which is hopefully high enough to support the real stregnth of the team - Rebounding. I have 154% CReb starting which is like having 5 Shaq's. Should be interesting. Good luck all, and thanks again steelers and eleib for the hard work!

Well you are taking a different K-Love and D-Rob than I expected.  You are starting to see te issue with D-Rob, his best season is a tier 3 and his tier 2 is only eFG in the low 50's.  We will see JKaye, prove me wrong..

Posted by thomcat on 9/1/2014 10:30:00 AM (view original):
Well, I hate doing this as the evals/comments are not for the purpose of owners acting on them- but I'm not going to be stupid about it either. When 4 very good players are unanimous in their thoughts, I'm not going to take it lightly and ruin an otherwise well thought out team. I'll start Mullin and complement English's 1500 minute season coming off the bench with Copeland.  

now you can blame us if it goes wrong

I'm using the versions that would be expected. Still making up my mind who to use as my final rotation guy. Could use a little more rounding out in a number of areas. Oreb is a little lite at about 33% but dreb will rarely fall below 100% so creb in the 135% range will win me the rebounding battle most of the time. Team efg close to 54%, but shot distribution between KD and George and impact of ast% will cause a lot of game-to-game variance (obviously KD and George will share 48mpg somewhere to keep me out of the team usage penalty.)

The only change I may make is to use a different Rondo and upgrade my final rotation player. Will have to play with that possibility more today.

Name	Team	Def	Min	3PM	3PA	Usage	efg	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%	Stl%	Blk%	creb	MPG
Kevin Durant	13-14 Thunder	61	3122	192	491	33.2	0.560	2.1	17.8	17.7	1.5	1.1	19.9	38.1
Jerry Lucas	68-69 Royals	50	3075	31	93	16.5	0.567	12.2	26.8	11.1	1.1	1.3	39	37.5
Rajon Rondo	09-10 Celtics	90	2963	17	80	20.3	0.517	4.1	9.9	34.9	3	0.2	14	36.1
Paul George	13-14 Pacers	90	2898	182	500	28.4	0.490	2.4	16.6	13.1	2.4	0.4	19	35.3
Tom Boerwinkle	70-71 Bulls	62	2370	24	71	16.7	0.501	12.7	32.1	19.1	1.8	3.8	44.8	28.9
Kyle Korver	12-13 Hawks	57	2259	189	414	14.5	0.618	1.1	12.7	8.3	1.4	1	13.8	27.5
Clifford Ray	71-72 Bulls	61	1872	11	38	14.2	0.511	13.2	32.2	15.2	1.9	4	45.4	22.8

No the rebounding will be fine. Gonna start Buck Williams at 95% at SF for 18 minutes and then put in Ersan for 25 mpg at SF. Ersan is 99% at SF and a 33% CREB so rebounding at the SF postion is a huge strength for 43 mpg. Nick Anderson covers that spot for 5 mpg.

Troy Murphy plays all 30 minutes at PF. He and Nick Anderson should dominate offensively on the perimeter and both have at least 57% EFG. Hakeem will be in the game the whole time the Murphy is on the court to cover for his poor defense. Then Buck is the super sub big man for 18 mpg behind Murphy.

Nick Anderson starts at SG and Kawhi the comes of the bench as a super defensive sub.

The team also has over 600 made 3s at over 41% shooting. If opposing owners choose to play +1 or +2 defense then Hakeem and Buck will tear it up in the paint.

Not my best team that's for sure. But the division draft went perfectly. I can't imagine finishing lower than 2nd place in the division. Thinking that this squad could win 50 games.

Thanks for the evals eleibowitz.