49 stamina 70 durability... Can he be a starter? Topic

Getting ready to head into FA and there is a 30 year old pitcher that is intriguing. I have money and am thinking of going all in on him.

He has two great pitches and a third in the 50s.

Two great splits and great control. 93 OVR.

He has spent his entire career in the bullpen.

So my question is if he could start and throw a good amount of pitches in a standard 5-man rotation.

Anyone ever used a guy like this?

If I get the answer I am hoping for I might go max contract if it takes it. So please let me know what you know.

I know he will recover but I am unsure if in game fatigue is reality in HBD.

Do you think he could handle 90-100 pitches a game in a 5-man?
2/20/2016 3:47 PM
First, no, he cannot throw 90 effective pitches.
Second, in a stupid small sample size, my guy got lit up in all 7 career starts at 50/60 PC.

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2/20/2016 5:10 PM
Mike, do you think it's because he only has two pitches? There is a difference there.

But hey, thanks for the input. He is pretty close to what this guy looks like.
2/20/2016 5:29 PM
He can make and recover from 90 pitches every 5th day. But in-game fatigue will make him get drilled in the last two IP of each start... you'll wonder why his ERA is a run and a half or two runs higher than you thought.

I can see using a guy like this as a starter-- PC 45/50, move him around to start him every 3rd day or so. That's 60 starts of about 3 and 2/3 IP per start, or about 200 innings. The tradeoff is that if you use him as a SuA or ClA, 25/35, he'll give you something like 150 IP, with both higher leverage and higher performance (due to less in-game fatigue). You have to decide how hard you want to work to make your rotation fit around him, and whether you need him more in the rotation or the pen.

2/20/2016 5:36 PM
Maybe use him as a SuA and carry 9 or 10 pitchers. He has been horribly misused with his former team. They are using him as a closer and getting 60-70 innings per season. Hold on. I'll be back and try to link the player. He looks pretty special.
2/20/2016 5:40 PM
Here's the pitcher. Hopefully I linked it correctly.He is getting even less innings than I thought.
2/20/2016 5:42 PM
Yeah, the two pitches matter. But I've experienced similar issues using 3 pitch guys as SP. They just don't seem consistent enough.
2/20/2016 5:57 PM
If he can't start he's not going to be worth the price. Thanks gents. 93 OVR will likely start with an asking price of 9 or 10 million. I can't remember.
2/20/2016 7:53 PM
Innings are innings. He can give you 150-175 out of the bullpen. At 25/30, he can probably give you 2 IP every other day.
2/21/2016 7:29 AM
Like Mike said, I would put him as your only SuA when he is available and have him come in at the 6th or later. On good days, he'll be a 1 man bullpen and allow you to carry more positional players. If I had the money, I'd pay $10 million for that.
2/21/2016 10:20 AM
Thanks guys. I am talking about this in one of my leagues too. 10 million will be my limit. But I'm scared he will go for more. We shall see.
2/21/2016 9:22 PM
It's all about how badly you need to fill a hole. If I had a killer bullpen, I wouldn't go over 6 million. If this is my Campionship run year and my bullpen could cost me, I would consider $14 million a deal.
2/21/2016 10:56 PM
I ended up signing that guy. He cost me 13.5 million per. But through 25 games he has pitched 32 innings of relief and has a 0.30 ERA. Already has a 3 inning save and a 4 inning save. I am using him as setup A with no closer.
3/17/2016 8:54 PM
Correction, 30 innings through 23 games. Willie Beckett
3/17/2016 8:56 PM
He's on pace for 200+ innings. What a waste from his previous owner.
3/17/2016 9:06 PM
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