Kershaw = 1st ballot HOFer already? Topic

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/1/2016 9:44:00 PM (view original):
I don't give a **** about WAR but I really think you need to look up how ERA+ works.
Ok, fair enough. I'll take a look at the magical world of ERA+ and how it relates to Koufax/Kershaw.
6/1/2016 10:03 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/1/2016 9:45:00 PM (view original):
You're boldly marching into badluck, USA territory now by doubling down on what you think.
Please.
6/1/2016 10:03 PM
OK, blpoker.
6/1/2016 10:20 PM
Also, I feel it's much harder to pitch in the 2010s than the 1960s. The 1960s is already notorious for being the best pitchers era. With all the scouting and film we have now, I feel it's much harder to be a pitcher now than back then
6/2/2016 2:55 AM
d_rock97 - I'm sure WAR takes that all into consideration. I'm sure BL will explain.
6/2/2016 6:10 AM
ERA+ does.
6/2/2016 6:44 AM
BR WAR for pitchers is essentially ERA+ combined with innings.
6/2/2016 3:15 PM
WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6/2/2016 5:03 PM
Gotta keep in mind that Kershaw has never been to a WS, nor has he even pitched well in the playoffs. Rightly or wrongly, we've seen that HOF voting tend to overweight postseason performance, particularly WS performance.

Koufax has 2 WS MVPs and 3 rings (though he didn't do as much for the first one)
6/3/2016 3:02 PM
Posted by toddcommish on 6/3/2016 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Gotta keep in mind that Kershaw has never been to a WS, nor has he even pitched well in the playoffs. Rightly or wrongly, we've seen that HOF voting tend to overweight postseason performance, particularly WS performance.

Koufax has 2 WS MVPs and 3 rings (though he didn't do as much for the first one)
Hall of Famer Ernie Banks sez "Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?"

6/3/2016 3:27 PM
Posted by toddcommish on 6/3/2016 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Gotta keep in mind that Kershaw has never been to a WS, nor has he even pitched well in the playoffs. Rightly or wrongly, we've seen that HOF voting tend to overweight postseason performance, particularly WS performance.

Koufax has 2 WS MVPs and 3 rings (though he didn't do as much for the first one)
Good point... What's his playoff WAR?
6/3/2016 6:04 PM
For some reason Kershaw can't pitch against the Cardinals in the post season!
6/6/2016 8:08 PM
is it because he chokes under pressure?
6/7/2016 5:04 PM
If you consider "choking" to be "pitching your worst in the most important games of your career"...

Then, yes.
6/8/2016 3:48 PM
61 years ago today: #Dodgers option LHP Tom Lasorda to AAA Montreal, clearing roster space for LHP Sandy Koufax.
6/8/2016 8:20 PM
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