The 1965 Icon Progressive, which began back in 1946, has voted to expand from its current 12-team format to a 16-team 4/4 divisional league. We hope to expand in 1966 or 1967, depending on when we have four interested owners. We need two NL teams and two AL teams.

The basis of the league is that players may only play for a franchise for which he played in real life. This means there is already plenty of talent available to new owners. For example, grab the Pirates and you already have Stargell, Clemente, and Mazeroski. Take the Twins, Killebrew, Allison, and Oliva are yours. I'll post additional information below.

Active Franchises:

NL: Cincinnati Reds, Los Angeles Dodgers, Milwaukee Braves, Philadelphia Phillies, St. Louis Cardinals, San Francisco Giants

AL: Baltimore Orioles, Boston Red Sox, Chicago White Sox, Cleveland Indians, Detroit Tigers, New York Yankees

Possible Expansion Franchises: (Check below for a list of automatic keepers)

NL: Chicago Cubs, Houston Astros, New York Mets, Pittsburgh Pirates
AL: California Angels, Kansas City Athletics, Minnesota Twins, Washington Senators

Specific League Rules:

Keeper Rules - All players that fall in to the 3 keeper categories below will be forced on their respected franchise. They can not be traded or cut.

CAREER KEEPERS - Any player who has played his entire career for one team (or entire WiS career) will belong to that team. If a player has played for several teams but has only racked up 50 AB or 25 IP for one team he will also belong to the team for which he played the bulk of his career. So if Player A plays four full seasons for the Dodgers, then goes to the Cubs where he only nets 30 ABs and is traded to the Mets where he gets another 30 he will be still be considered a Dodgers Career Keeper.

TEAM ICONS - Any player whose first ten or more eligible WIS seasons are with the same team, and who has had no more than 3 WIS seasons with other teams (including defunct teams) will be designated a Team Icon and belong to the team whom he played 10 years for.

-Any player who racked up more than 25 IP/50 AB with a single active franchise, regardless of seasons with a defunct franchise (Pirates, Cubs, Mets, Colt 45s, Athletics, Twins, Senators, Angels) will be the property of the active franchise. Any player failing to get 25IP or 50AB with any active francise will be defunct and not in our league.

- If a player is traded during his 10th season he will still qualify and that season will not be used against his 3.

- If a player is traded during his first WIS season but has compiled say 30 ABs for Team A and 30 for Team B, teams can use this season to count towards the 10.

- If a player plays 11 seasons for team A, then for the next 4 seasons picked up 30 ABs for 2 different teams each season (so 60 total each year), he will not be eligible.

- Any players being kept this way is allowed to be put on IR any season he did not play for your franchise.

- Any Team Icon being may be placed on IR any season he did not play for your franchise.

- Any player who played every game for an expansion/defunct team or has fewer than 25 IP/50 AB with a single active franchise will not be eligible to be drafted by any team.

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*Every other player who does not fall in to one of these rules will be eligible to be drafted by any team he appeared in 1 game for (any team that shows up on his B-R page at the time of the draft).

Automatic Career Keepers:

Chicago Cubs: Ernie Banks, Ron Campbell, Glenn Beckert, Billy Williams
Houston Astros: Danny Coombs
New York Mets: Larry Bearnarth, Larry Elliot, Cleon Jones, Ed Kranepool
Pittsburgh Pirates: Gene Alley, Steve Blass, Roy Face, Roberto Clemente, Vern Law, Bill Mazeroski, Willie Stargell

California Angels: Fred Newman, Buck Rodgers, Paul Schaal
Kansas City Athletics: Jim Dickson, Dick Green, Vern Handrahan
Minnesota Twins: Bob Allison, Dave Boswell, Harmon Killebrew, Tony Oliva, Camilo Pascual, Rich Rollins, Dwight Siebler
Washington Senators: Jim Duckworth

Other players currently excluded from the league who will become eligible with expansion include: Don Mincher (MIN, CAL, KCA, WSA), Jim Fregosi (CAL, NYM, WSA, PIT), Ed Kirkpatrick (HOU, PIT, WSH)

Future Stars available to Exansion Franchises: Rod Carew, Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, Manny Sanguillen, Reggie Jackson, et al.

What's the entry plan?

Top of the draft? Certain # of unprotected players from each roster?

Posted by edsortails on 6/12/2016 5:54:00 PM (view original):
What's the entry plan?

Top of the draft? Certain # of unprotected players from each roster?

There will be an expansion draft prior to the rookie draft. 12 players or picks to help fill rosters the the expNsion teams will own the first four picks in the draft based on future payroll.

The Giants are also looking for a new owner. They currently sit atop the National League at game 118.

Roster includes Mays, McCovey, all three Alous, Marichal and more.

Twins and Mets have been taken.

Interested.

I like the KC A's and their future

Posted by nockahoma on 6/23/2016 9:42:00 AM (view original):
Interested.

I like the KC A's and their future

Outstanding! I'll add you to the forum to look around. Feel free to chime in to the expansion discussion and let me know if your preference is for 1966 or 1967.

We are now full for the expansion, but still looking for someone to take over the 1st place Giants. Here is a preview of their 1966 roster.

Player	SN	B	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	HBP	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	PA	SF	SH
Alou, Felipe	1966	R	154	666	122	218	32	6	31	74	24	51	12	5	7	.327	.361	.533	.894	706	2	2
Groat, Dick	1966	R	155	584	58	152	21	4	2	53	40	38	5	2	1	.260	.311	.320	.631	640	4	7
Hart, Jim Ray	1966	R	157	582	89	166	23	4	33	94	48	75	4	2	5	.285	.342	.510	.853	640	4	2
White, Bill	1966	L	159	577	85	159	23	6	22	103	68	109	3	16	6	.276	.352	.451	.803	659	5	6
Mays, Willie	1966	R	153	556	100	160	29	4	37	104	70	82	2	5	1	.288	.368	.556	.924	633	4	1
Fuentes, Tito	1966	S	134	545	63	142	21	3	9	40	9	57	3	6	3	.261	.276	.360	.637	568	1	10
Alou, Matty	1966	L	141	535	86	183	18	9	2	27	24	44	4	23	15	.342	.373	.421	.793	578	3	12
McCovey, Willie	1966	L	151	506	86	149	26	6	36	97	76	101	6	2	1	.295	.391	.586	.977	592	4	0
Hunt, Ron	1966	R	133	482	63	139	19	2	3	33	41	34	11	8	10	.288	.356	.355	.711	547	2	10
Alou, Jesus	1966	R	111	373	41	97	13	1	1	20	9	22	2	5	5	.259	.279	.308	.587	390	2	4
Davenport, Jim	1966	R	112	307	42	76	6	2	9	30	22	40	1	1	1	.249	.300	.370	.670	339	2	6
Blasingame, Don	1966	L	82	224	19	47	9	0	1	12	20	24	0	2	2	.210	.276	.265	.541	248	0	4
Marichal, Juan	1966	R	37	113	10	28	5	0	1	15	2	24	0	0	0	.250	.263	.321	.585	120	0	5
Perry, Gaylord	1966	R	36	87	4	16	1	0	0	2	1	25	0	0	0	.186	.195	.198	.393	94	0	6
Shaw, Bob	1966	R	39	57	1	13	0	0	0	2	4	18	0	0	0	.232	.279	.232	.511	69	1	7
Barber, Steve	1966	L	25	45	1	3	0	0	0	1	0	30	0	0	0	.068	.068	.068	.136	52	0	7
Herbel, Ron	1966	R	32	39	0	1	0	0	0	1	1	24	0	0	0	.026	.051	.026	.078	40	0	0
O'Dell, Billy	1966	S	63	24	2	3	0	0	0	2	1	8	0	0	0	.125	.160	.125	.285	25	0	0
Hamilton, Steve	1966	L	45	20	1	1	0	0	0	1	0	2	0	0	0	.053	.053	.053	.105	22	0	2
Worthington, Al	1966	R	65	11	2	3	3	0	0	3	0	6	0	0	0	.273	.273	.545	.818	11	0	0

if you still need someone id be interested

The league did expand for 1966 and heading into the 1967 Season we are looking for an owner for the White Sox. The White Sox are currently sitting at best record in the American League and should be clinching the AL West shortly. Their roster is below:

Chicago White Sox

C JC Martin (CHW CK, NYM, CHC)
C Don Pavletich (CHW, BOS, CIN)
2B Bobby Knoop (CHW CK, CAL, KCR)
3B Ron Santo (CHW CK, CHC)
3B Pete Ward (CHW, NYY, BAL)
SS Luis Aparicio (CHW, BAL, BOS)
OF Lee Maye (MIL, HOU, CLE, WSA, CHW)
OF Leon Wagner (CLE, CAL, SFG, STL, CHW)
OF Ken Berry (CHW CK, CAL, MIL, CLE < 50 PA)
OF Rick Reichardt (CHW Career Keeper, CAL, KCR, WSA)
SP Joe Horlen (White Sox Icon)
SP Tommy John (NYY, CHW, CLE, LAD, KCA, CAL)
SP Bruce Howard (CHW, BAL, WSA)
SP Blue Moon Odom (CHW, OAK, CLE, ATL)
P Tommie Sisk (CHW CK, PIT, SDP)
P Phil Regan (DET, CHC, LAD, CHW)
P Don McMahon (MIL, HOU, CLE, BOS, CHW, DET, SFG)
P Eddie Fisher (CHW, BAL, STL, CAL, SFG, CLE)
P Dan Osinski (KCA, CAL, MIL, BOS, CHW)
P Bob Locker (CHW CK, KCA, MIL, CHC)
P Clay Carroll (CIN, STL, PIT, CHW, MIL)
P Juan Pizarro (CHW, ATL, CHC, PIT, BOS, OAK, CLE, HOU)

AAA / Optioned:
None

Injured Reserve:
P Dennis Higgins (STL, WSA, CHW, CLE)

You can keep the White Sox, or if you wanted to, we have a process to move teams and could transition them into any of the open AL teams. We do have a few other teams moving in 1968 so you could join that process. The open spots are Washington Senators (Rangers,) California Angels, or if you wanted to move to Kansas City or Seattle (Milwaukee) a season early that's ok too.

The White Sox are in great shape and the team should be a contender for the AL West title for quite some time.

I'm a White Sox fan, so that makes the team and league intriguing. Just so I clearly understand the rules, Someone played their whole career for your team is automatically yours and you have to keep them forever even when they suck. Someone like Frank Thomas would be a WS Icon and automatically on the team. The draft is just to draft the players that played for several franchises, and you can only pick a player if they played for your franchise at some time. Once you draft a player, you can keep that player as long as you want even if they played for another franchise, but if you cut him, he goes back into the draft and any of the teams he played for can draft him. Is that correct?

That's correct. I added you to our private forum so you can check it out. Feel free to ask any other questions and the team is yours if you want them. We'd love to have you. The White Sox currently sit at 97-53, have an 8 game lead on the Tigers in the NL West and the best record in both leagues. Due to the limited draft classes for each team trading is hot and heavy and an 80-85mil salary is plenty enough to compete.