$52 Million LV Draft Commentary Topic

Everybody's an A- everybody. (But I do love Barros.)
8/22/2016 3:46 PM
Really though?
8/22/2016 4:09 PM
I would love to pair him with Wade, McGrady or Kobe. Cheaper per minute than Porter, more usage than Porter or Ward and more minutes. Certainly better than any other point guards you'll find in the 5th round.
8/22/2016 4:27 PM
psst: Terry Porter's per minute cost at 2665 minutes for 6.7m is $3.99 while Barros's is 3318/8.2m = $4.03 and both Porter and Barros are 2 pt usage guys - not a huge difference in attempts at all - in fact almost exactly the same .35 attempts a minute for both - meanwhile Porter has a higher assist rate and is better (by 15 rating points) on defense

and usage is hardly to reason why you would use Ward who is significantly (40 rating points) better on defense
8/22/2016 4:49 PM (edited)
hmmm. thought Barros was worth less per minute.

anyway, minutes are the quality on which the value relies. so, more minutes, more quality.

Ward is deceptive. it's a great eFG%, but he averages 13.3 PP48. the defense is nice, of course.....but you could get that from ______. you could probably get more from _____, given his minutes. it's all relative....

(i'll fill in the blank later. or not)
8/22/2016 5:11 PM
Name Team Pos GP Min Pts FGM FGA 3PM 3PA FTM FTA OReb Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Def
Magic Johnson 81-82 Lakers SG 78 2991 1447 556 1036 6 29 329 433 252 751 743 286 208 34 223 73
Tracy McGrady 02-03 Magic SF 75 2955 2407 829 1813 173 448 576 726 121 488 411 195 124 59 156 64
Kevin Garnett 02-03 Timberwolves PF 82 3321 1883 743 1481 20 71 377 502 244 1102 495 229 113 129 199 90
Joakim Noah 13-14 Bulls C 80 2820 1007 380 800 0 2 247 335 282 900 431 194 99 121 245 90
Emeka Okafor 06-07 Bobcats C 67 2330 963 394 740 0 0 175 295 258 757 80 111 57 172 210 71
Jamaal Tinsley 03-04 Pacers PG 52 1378 432 153 370 77 207 49 67 28 136 303 110 84 17 132 82
Kris Humphries 10-11 Nets PF 74 2061 741 307 583 0 1 127 191 225 771 84 103 33 80 168 59
TOTALS 17856 8880 3362 6823 276 758 1880 2549 1410 4905 2547 1228 718 612 1333

Name Team Pos Usage% 2pt%# 3pt%# eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Stl% Blk%
Magic Johnson 81-82 Lakers SG 20.1 54.1 21.9 54.0 9.1 16.8 25.2 2.8 0.6
Tracy McGrady 02-03 Magic SF 35.4 48.3 38.6 50.5 4.3 13.7 18.7 1.9 1.2
Kevin Garnett 02-03 Timberwolves PF 26.5 51.6 28.1 50.8 8.0 26.5 18.6 1.6 2.2
Joakim Noah 13-14 Bulls C 18.8 47.3 0.0 47.5 10.7 23.0 21.4 1.7 2.6
Emeka Okafor 06-07 Bobcats C 19.5 53.0 0.0 53.2 12.2 25.1 4.7 1.1 4.6
Jamaal Tinsley 03-04 Pacers PG 17.6 47.0 37.2 51.8 2.3 8.8 31.6 3.0 0.8
Kris Humphries 10-11 Nets PF 17.5 52.5 0.0 52.7 11.7 30.0 5.6 0.8 2.4

8/22/2016 5:13 PM
Haven't fully committed to the 81-82 Magic season yet.
8/22/2016 5:15 PM
Name Team Pos Usage% 2pt%# 3pt%# eFG% OReb% DReb% Ast% Stl% Blk%
Dana Barros 94-95 76ers PG 21.4 49.6 46.1 57.0 0.9 8.3 24.9 2.0 0.1
Kyrie Irving 14-15 Cavaliers PG 26.2 48.9 41.5 53.2 2.2 7.1 18.2 1.9 0.4
Vince Carter 04-05 Nets SG 32.9 47.2 42.4 50.5 3.8 13.3 17.3 1.8 1.0
Andrei Kirilenko 05-06 Jazz SF 20.6 48.9 30.6 48.5 7.1 17.8 16.6 1.9 5.5
Shaquille O'Neal 99-00 Lakers C 31.2 57.6 0.0 57.4 11.4 23.3 11.9 0.5 4.4
Marcus Camby 07-08 Nuggets C 13.2 45.3 29.8 45.5 9.0 29.7 11.4 1.3 5.7
Samuel Dalembert 09-10 76ers C 15.2 54.1 0.0 54.5 12.3 29.3 3.9 0.9 4.3
8/23/2016 4:49 AM (edited)
Posted by bds9992 on 8/22/2016 5:11:00 PM (view original):
hmmm. thought Barros was worth less per minute.

anyway, minutes are the quality on which the value relies. so, more minutes, more quality.

Ward is deceptive. it's a great eFG%, but he averages 13.3 PP48. the defense is nice, of course.....but you could get that from ______. you could probably get more from _____, given his minutes. it's all relative....

(i'll fill in the blank later. or not)
all else being equal more minutes is almost always less economical - minutes is part of the valuation equation so it's inevitable (and in fact 3300+ minutes of Porter would be more expensive than Barros once that was factored in)

of course in this theme it matters less because we have a high cap but that said all these leagues have a cap of some sort, so no minutes aren't exactly the quality on which the value relies, it's more like Quality*minutes/$$$ - you can have too many minutes to use in a high cap league otherwise (in other words in a high cap league you want to pay as much for per minute as possible)
8/22/2016 6:12 PM (edited)
Posted by bds9992 on 8/22/2016 4:27:00 PM (view original):
I would love to pair him with Wade, McGrady or Kobe. Cheaper per minute than Porter, more usage than Porter or Ward and more minutes. Certainly better than any other point guards you'll find in the 5th round.
Ok. If you had said "Barros is an A- Terry Porter" then I wouldn't make jokes about it.
8/22/2016 7:46 PM
Glad to see that everybody is so consumed with bds9992's A- comments so much that they aren't paying any attention to the most awesome team ever build around Dennis Rodman. Okay so who's gonna draft my team into their division? milest what is your evaluation?
8/22/2016 7:55 PM
You'll win some games and make the playoffs, but it's not my favorite team Vance. 4 guys under 50D and not enough ast. You'll prob end up okay though since you're efg% is nice across the board. I'll definitely run a -3 against you
8/22/2016 8:10 PM
Posted by vancem on 8/22/2016 7:55:00 PM (view original):
Glad to see that everybody is so consumed with bds9992's A- comments so much that they aren't paying any attention to the most awesome team ever build around Dennis Rodman. Okay so who's gonna draft my team into their division? milest what is your evaluation?
Wanna bet a team that you won't beat the 52 wins I had with him last season?
8/22/2016 8:20 PM
Posted by vancem on 8/22/2016 7:55:00 PM (view original):
Glad to see that everybody is so consumed with bds9992's A- comments so much that they aren't paying any attention to the most awesome team ever build around Dennis Rodman. Okay so who's gonna draft my team into their division? milest what is your evaluation?
I'm still upset I didn't draft Rodman.. and I was hoping for Ewing in the 3rd and I would have paired him with Kris Humphreys (who is very underrated).... But, that's beside the point... I think you have the ingredients for a very good team. I wish KAT played better D, but he's still a viable option late in the draft... also, I doubt I will be playing -3 D against you considering Ewing shoots 55% of his shots from midrange. Not sure about KAT, but I doubt he's over 55% inside- probably 45-52% (just a guess since I'm on my phone)... Not sure which Dr J you're going with, but I know which one I'd use, and it's not always the popular choice... You will certainly out-rebound my & most teams... I usually draft very good rebounding teams, but not this time... good luck.. my track record for predicting teams is as bad as it gets, btw....
8/22/2016 8:22 PM
I'll think about that jt7king. You do realize that by being in charge of one of the four division drafts will help me to select teams that should boost my team's record. Actually your team last season was probably better than a normal 52 game winner. If I remember correctly milest drafted one of the toughest divisions ever ha ha.
8/22/2016 9:05 PM
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