Posted by taniajane on 9/10/2016 5:53:00 AM (view original):
Posted by gillispie1 on 9/10/2016 3:52:00 AM (view original):
Posted by taniajane on 9/9/2016 12:42:00 PM (view original):
Gee Gillespie this sure clears it up "...was where seble rewrote the engine sim engine because he couldn't code in the language old admin wrote in .." Yet "sometimes the founder will be required to stay on to assist with the transition, maybe a couple key people, but that's it - and tarek stayed around for over 5 years. its not uncommon to have developers who code in different languages (most developers can code capably in at least a few)---"
So do we have a case of a Very Slow Learner that in Five years can not learn the code? Tell me again how this is "actually extremely common in software companies." Sorry perhaps it is "Common" for you but not for any intelligent and diligent programmer. Not buying that load of garbage as an excuse or an example of a programmer that has 5 years to learn with the previous and original writer and just "could not understand it".
seble was not the HD programmer when tarek was still there - he was assigned to HD after tarek was fired. WIS management is responsible for not cross training, for using those 5+ years to prepare for the founder leaving, not seble. its obviously you don't know anything about software development, or the history of HD - and that's fine - but why act like you do?
Obviously I don't have your Inside Information...amazing certain Customers do. So with your connections you are saying the other posters are dead wrong when they claim Tarek was not there, NOW 5 Plus Years? And Tarek was "Fired" (the man that sold the product) and never, obviously because of WIS mis-management, was tasked with cross training other employees or writing any form of manual to modify or read this secret code,so they just thru Seble into the job that he was unqualified for?
Gee, that is quite a Story.
inside information? no. tarek is the one who talked to us about potential and planned that release, maybe he had some help on the programming from seble but when seble came in afterwards, i got the impression that was definitely not the case. shortly after potential came out, tarek said something to the effect he was let go with 0 notice. maybe he left voluntarily as mully said, but i definitely remember him telling it like it was sudden and he was blindsided. he was asked (on the forums) if he'd be allowed to keep his teams and play, and he was. but then he left not much later, don't blame him.
my timeline could be off too, but i thought WIS sold to fox in 2004 and i only started like 2007 or so, and tarek was the admin for a couple years, until potential came out. ah, wikipedia says 2005 fox bought WIS, and WIS has a page on it from sept 2005 so maybe it was only 3-4 years? for some reason i always thought i came several years after the sale, that is surprising to me in was only 2ish. oh well. maybe i even came earlier, i remember betting a friend at college my SIUE team would win the title at fair odds, and i graduated in 2008, and it definitely took some time to get to where i had dominant teams like that. also, tarek ran a dev chat in early 2009, so i guess it was like 3.5 years he was there? my bad, i thought i played 2 years before potential and came 3+ years after the sale, but apparently i came way less than 3 years after the sale. anyway, when seble came in, he didn't really say he knew nothing about HD or anything, but when he rewrote the sim engine, he explained that nobody at WIS at the ability to make substantial change to HD, that rewriting in a different language was necessary to make future improvements, beyond slight tweaks, possible. theoretically, seble could have been programming behind the scenes while tarek kept admin duties, but it definitely doesn't seem that way from everything that happened.
its pretty normal for a developer to leave (through whatever means) a small company (or a large one) and for there to be a gap created. someone who is close to what that developer did often has to step in, and its universally one of the harder things developers have to do. its not that seble was unqualified - its that its generally very tough to pick up code someone else wrote, that is poorly documented (as is the case in basically every startup), and run with it - especially if you don't know that programming language very well.
9/10/2016 4:59 PM (edited)