Playoff eliminator updates Topic

I'll tell you what OSU did. They killed the chance of a conference non-winner getting in next year. Especially if PSU/Oklahoma have good showings tomorrow.
1/1/2017 12:45 PM
Oklahoma game would have no effect at all given Ohio St. beat them by 21 in Oklahoma.
1/1/2017 10:43 PM
what would happen if only conference champs were invited
  1. non-conference games wouldn't matter
  2. conference games would
  3. teams would do what they had to do, scheduling-wise, to get better in the conference
in about ten years we'd get 16 conferences of eight and a great tournament
1/1/2017 11:35 PM
That's exactly what happened until they let OSU in this year. And they got curbstomped. PSU/OK, with good showings, will ensure only conference winners get in next year.
1/2/2017 7:10 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 1/2/2017 7:10:00 AM (view original):
That's exactly what happened until they let OSU in this year. And they got curbstomped. PSU/OK, with good showings, will ensure only conference winners get in next year.
Wrong as usual.
In a situation like if Alabama had lost it's Conference Championship, they should, and will still always make the Playoff. They deserve it for their season-worth of work.
I'm all-in on agreeing a team should at least win it's Division though.
1/2/2017 10:00 AM
Posted by all3 on 1/2/2017 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 1/2/2017 7:10:00 AM (view original):
That's exactly what happened until they let OSU in this year. And they got curbstomped. PSU/OK, with good showings, will ensure only conference winners get in next year.
Wrong as usual.
In a situation like if Alabama had lost it's Conference Championship, they should, and will still always make the Playoff. They deserve it for their season-worth of work.
I'm all-in on agreeing a team should at least win it's Division though.
A few years back, Alabama didn't win its division but got a rematch against LSU for the title. Should OKstate have received the title shot against LSU instead?
1/2/2017 12:27 PM
You can't refer back to what happened before the playoffs.

all3, if there are 4 clear conference winners, conference winners will be in. Sure, if a couple of the "better" teams get upset in the conference championship, new doors are opened.
1/2/2017 1:30 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 1/2/2017 1:30:00 PM (view original):
You can't refer back to what happened before the playoffs.

all3, if there are 4 clear conference winners, conference winners will be in. Sure, if a couple of the "better" teams get upset in the conference championship, new doors are opened.
How can you claim something is ensured, then claim new doors will open?
Arguing simply for the sake of arguing: b_l really has hacked this account, hasn't he?
1/2/2017 4:31 PM
Posted by ncmusician_7 on 1/2/2017 12:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 1/2/2017 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 1/2/2017 7:10:00 AM (view original):
That's exactly what happened until they let OSU in this year. And they got curbstomped. PSU/OK, with good showings, will ensure only conference winners get in next year.
Wrong as usual.
In a situation like if Alabama had lost it's Conference Championship, they should, and will still always make the Playoff. They deserve it for their season-worth of work.
I'm all-in on agreeing a team should at least win it's Division though.
A few years back, Alabama didn't win its division but got a rematch against LSU for the title. Should OKstate have received the title shot against LSU instead?
I'm all-in on agreeing a team should at least win it's Division though.

If you have a shot to beat a team and don't, why should you get a 2nd chance before someone equally as deserving gets a 1st shot?
If the teams split, is there a 3rd game? Points differential decides Champ?
Why would a 1 or 2 point win off-set a prior 20 point loss to the same team?
Simply opens the door for too many more "what ifs" and "maybes'.

1/2/2017 4:38 PM
If there are 4 clear conference winners of course they would be in. This year there weren't as 2 of the 5 champions had 2 losses making good them suspect choices.

There are no steadfast rules nor should there be. The 4 best teams based on the entire season should be the 4 in the playoffs. They all might be unbeaten conference champions. They all might have 2 losses. They might be a conference champion or they might not. Each season will be weighed on the whole and the 4 best teams will be selected.
1/3/2017 7:13 AM
Oklahoma ensured 4 conference champions next year last night. Barring an unexpected upset in the conference championship game(which hasn't happened yet).
1/3/2017 7:47 AM
Oklahoma got destroyed at home and lost to an unranked team. Oklahoma by beating a 4 loss team in a "meaningless" bowl game ensured nothing.

That said odds are the 4 best teams will all be conference champions. After all 11 of the 12 playoff teams won their conference.
1/3/2017 10:06 AM
As I said, at season's end, Oklahoma was one of the 4 best. Don't give a **** what happened in September.
1/3/2017 10:26 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 1/3/2017 10:26:00 AM (view original):
As I said, at season's end, Oklahoma was one of the 4 best. Don't give a **** what happened in September.
Yeah, nothing says "Top 4 team" like beating a 4-loss team playing mostly with it's 2nd-string QB.
1/3/2017 11:42 AM
And Mike seems to forget that a better Oklahoma team lost by three touchdowns to an at least comparable if not better Clemson team the prior year in the playoffs.

Oklahoma was not a top 4 team this year. They weren't a top five or six team ever.
1/3/2017 2:12 PM
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