Double teaming pointless? Topic

Posted by kcsundevil on 9/9/2016 6:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachWard95 on 9/9/2016 6:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Trentonjoe on 9/9/2016 6:03:00 PM (view original):
Communism controls information and the media. Socialism does not.
Communisimm and socalisim still kills the same amount of people
That escalated quickly
How I feel about my entire double teaming thread...
9/9/2016 11:25 PM
How I feel about my entire double teaming thread...

Muahahaha I feel your pain.........
9/9/2016 11:30 PM
True Communist and Socialist countries are authoritarian and to survive must be dictatorships. Any nimrod that believes socialism is the answer, I give you Venezuela. The west won the Cold War because the economy of the Soviet Bloc could not keep up with a vibrant free market system of the west. Historically central planning of the economy has never worked.

For the record double teaming is not communist or socialist. :p

"While communism and socialism share many principles (in fact, some would say communism is an extreme form of socialism), the primary difference between the two is that communism is both an economic and political system, while socialism is only an economic system, and as such can exist within a number of political systems or even within parts of a larger economic system, such as a free market."

I do not agree completely with this definition, it will work for now.
9/10/2016 2:13 AM
Y'all are completely off base:

Communists hold that State ownership of the means of production is the sole means of guaranteeing the liberty and equality that is superficially promised by other political/economic systems, but generally enjoyed by only a few plutocrats.

Socialism holds that the State must have a free hand to regulate private property & liberty to assure that one person's exercise of liberty and property rights doesn't come at the expense their neighbor's equal right to the pursuit of happiness. Thus trading off some liberty for equality.

Capitalism is best defended by noting that growing the entire economic pie generally succeeds in improving the lot of the poor more assuredly than can be expected from those systems that pursue equality first. Even though there may be egregious inequity in distribution of welfare among citizens and, therefore, privileges of citizens, still the welfare of the state as a whole will be better. So, the less regulation of private property, the better. People are best motivated by self interest.

So, none of these has much to do with whether the State is authoritarian, representative republic or pure democracy. They all have to do with the function of govt as it relates to private property rights.

The trick for capitalists and libertarians is how to enforce allocation of costs for negative externalities of production? That is, if you wish to farm or fish on your property, but your neighbor wishes to have a tire fire/landfill, then who's liberty is to be constrained if they are unwilling to sell or cease at anything like a reasonable price?

[Hint: if the State does nothing, tire fire always wins.]

Oh...doubleteaming works fine. I tend to prefer to DT poor passers on the theory that it should generate more turnovers. Some success on that score. I've never felt that it was very effective at providing "help" defense to a poor defender that might otherwise be targeted in man.
9/10/2016 10:49 AM (edited)
9/10/2016 11:07 AM
Posted by CoachWard95 on 9/9/2016 9:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cubcub113 on 9/9/2016 9:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Trentonjoe on 9/9/2016 6:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by CoachWard95 on 9/9/2016 6:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Trentonjoe on 9/9/2016 6:03:00 PM (view original):
Communism controls information and the media. Socialism does not.
Communisimm and socalisim still kills the same amount of people
Yeah, the oppressive regimes in France, Italy and Scandinavia have had some real major mass murder issues.
Sweden is a blood pool right now!
Yup because of the freakin migrants went into the country. They have become the number 1 rape epidermic in the world. This is why Brexit was a success and Trump I will gaurentee that Trump will win because of Brexit and illegal migrants.
Oh, I was kidding! I thought you knew that! Sweden is 187 in the world, Norway is 206, Denmark 183 out of 218. Those are some oppressive and bloodthirsty socialism leaders there!
9/10/2016 11:52 AM (edited)
Rogelio your post is pure theory and does not take into account history. The only way a communist or socialist system comes to be is when it is imposed on the people. The only way such a regime stays in power is through subjugation of the populace. Lenin was not elected in 1917 and could not have stayed in power without the Cheka. Mao took power in China after a revolution and used terror and intimidation to consolidate it. Castro in Cuba, Chavez in Venezuela. The list is long. The common theme is oppression, little if any personal liberty and a dictator.

Capitalism is a Marxist term. The correct term is "free market." It is best defended by history and the exceptionalism of the United States. The economy of this country, even constrained with over regulation and government obstruction, powers the world. The real issue in this country is if we are going to stop the government from intruding into everything we do. The Founders gave us the freedom to prosper and we have. Government has grown into a freedom sucking monster and its continued growth must be stopped. Four of the five RICHEST zip codes in the country are in the suburbs of Washington DC. In much the same way the Administration in HD has lost its focus, the political class has forgotten why they are in office. It is a government of, by and for the people. I heard that somewhere.

How to defend an opponent is based on your teams strengths as compared to the other teams weaknesses. In game planning, I never go away from what my team does well.
9/10/2016 12:31 PM (edited)
History didn't start with Lenin. I think Ringo said that. Was the Tsar elected? Was he responsive to the welfare of his citizens? Was the puppet dictatorship in Pre-revolutionary Cuba, because it responded to the whims of foreign corporate interests, rather than the welfare of its people, a wonderful "free market" paradise?

Don't take your starting point in history as the one that justifies your preferences & preconceptions!

BTW, the new coinflips recruiting isn't nearly as bad as preferences. Those are f*cking awful!
9/10/2016 12:58 PM
Yeah, they need to tweak preferences.
9/10/2016 1:32 PM
Posted by zorzii on 9/10/2016 1:32:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, they need to tweak preferences.
You know, this thread has really gotten away from me. I thought I had a better grasp on this whole thing. It took us, like, six hours to go from defense to "Seble sucks" to Communism. I'm actually impressed a little.
9/10/2016 7:54 PM
So I'll frame the question based upon the conversation I helped to bring about - if you had to characterize HD 2 and HD 3 in terms of some of the political/economic rhetoric here how would you do so?
9/11/2016 6:37 PM
2.0 is Constitution based some flaws but fixable.

3.0 and especially the way it came about has no basis in the Constitution and based on "judges" making up law. Then it was put into the hands of unelected bureaucrat’s to implement with no consequence to their ineptness. In a way like how Obamacare rolled out and is now collapsing.
9/13/2016 10:15 PM
Posted by pallas on 9/10/2016 7:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by zorzii on 9/10/2016 1:32:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, they need to tweak preferences.
You know, this thread has really gotten away from me. I thought I had a better grasp on this whole thing. It took us, like, six hours to go from defense to "Seble sucks" to Communism. I'm actually impressed a little.
Just hit obamacare!
9/14/2016 12:44 PM
Anything else we need to touch on?
9/15/2016 10:46 PM
Posted by dpm1227 on 9/15/2016 10:46:00 PM (view original):
Anything else we need to touch on?
Ha
9/15/2016 11:04 PM
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