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Posted by bad_luck on 9/19/2016 5:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 9/19/2016 5:11:00 PM (view original):
A well-struck grounder is still more likely to find a hole than a weak one.
Absolutely. There's a direct correlation between exit velocity and the odds that the BIP becomes a hit.
How do you know that without having full access to exit velocity numbers?
9/19/2016 5:33 PM
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I don't have the link, but there was a piece out earlier in the year that made a pretty compelling case.
9/19/2016 5:49 PM
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9/19/2016 7:40 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 9/19/2016 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I don't have the link, but there was a piece out earlier in the year that made a pretty compelling case.
I call bullshit. You keep track of every post, every link, every everything.

So if you can't produce it, it's because you're making **** up again.

PSBL.
9/19/2016 7:45 PM
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Posted by tecwrg on 9/19/2016 7:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/19/2016 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I don't have the link, but there was a piece out earlier in the year that made a pretty compelling case.
I call bullshit. You keep track of every post, every link, every everything.

So if you can't produce it, it's because you're making **** up again.

PSBL.
????

I'm pretty sure it was on fangraphs or 538. But fine, according to you there is no correlation between hitting the ball hard and getting a hit. Is that what you think?
9/19/2016 7:51 PM
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The one that came out on FanGraphs seems to have disappeared. But here's another similar article:

http://www.todaysknuckleball.com/al/baltimore-orioles/zach-britton-luck-factor/
9/19/2016 7:56 PM
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Of course, the one thing that gets ignored in such analysis is launch angle. Britton has one of the lowest launch angles against him on groundballs of anybody in MLB. So even though the ball is coming off the bat hard, it's not necessarily perceived as a hard-hit groundball because there are less 1- and 2-hoppers. On a somewhat related note, because of the velocity he has a smaller percentage of groundballs to the pull field against him than average and a huge proportion of groundballs hit back towards the middle of the field. Not a lot to get through the holes between 3B and SS or 1B and 2B.

I'm not saying his BABIP isn't a little bit lucky. But I also think that the expectation value should not be considered to be the league average on groundballs, or even particularly close to it.
9/19/2016 8:08 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 9/19/2016 7:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 9/19/2016 7:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/19/2016 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I don't have the link, but there was a piece out earlier in the year that made a pretty compelling case.
I call bullshit. You keep track of every post, every link, every everything.

So if you can't produce it, it's because you're making **** up again.

PSBL.
????

I'm pretty sure it was on fangraphs or 538. But fine, according to you there is no correlation between hitting the ball hard and getting a hit. Is that what you think?
Where did I say there was no correlation?
9/19/2016 10:26 PM
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Posted by tecwrg on 9/19/2016 10:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/19/2016 7:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 9/19/2016 7:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/19/2016 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I don't have the link, but there was a piece out earlier in the year that made a pretty compelling case.
I call bullshit. You keep track of every post, every link, every everything.

So if you can't produce it, it's because you're making **** up again.

PSBL.
????

I'm pretty sure it was on fangraphs or 538. But fine, according to you there is no correlation between hitting the ball hard and getting a hit. Is that what you think?
Where did I say there was no correlation?
I guess you didn't. Cool, we agree then.
9/19/2016 10:33 PM
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Wow PSBL and Tec agree. What's next? Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
9/20/2016 6:03 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 9/19/2016 10:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 9/19/2016 10:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/19/2016 7:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 9/19/2016 7:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 9/19/2016 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I don't have the link, but there was a piece out earlier in the year that made a pretty compelling case.
I call bullshit. You keep track of every post, every link, every everything.

So if you can't produce it, it's because you're making **** up again.

PSBL.
????

I'm pretty sure it was on fangraphs or 538. But fine, according to you there is no correlation between hitting the ball hard and getting a hit. Is that what you think?
Where did I say there was no correlation?
I guess you didn't. Cool, we agree then.
Where have I said that I agree with you?
9/20/2016 7:37 AM
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Well, it's kind of an either/or. You either agree that there's a correlation between velocity and hits, or you disagree.
9/20/2016 9:18 AM
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I've said neither.

I'm not sure why you were assuming that I did.

PSBL.
9/20/2016 9:35 AM
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Yeah, you haven't said if you agree or not, but you do agree.
9/20/2016 9:40 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 9/20/2016 9:40:00 AM (view original):
Yeah, you haven't said if you agree or not, but you do agree.
9/20/2016 9:53 AM
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