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Time for the 3rd iteration. This one will the called The Eliminator.

1. All owners will join either the AL or NL.
2. There will be TWO building seasons.
3. In the 1st pre-season, owners are free to trade but only with non-TWC owners.
4. During the 4 cycle break between pre-season and game 1, and during the entire regular season until roster expansion, TWC owners will "draft" players from the other TWC owner's ORIGINAL rosters(meaning a player acquired during the pre-season cannot be drafted). Trades will obviously be made to get the players on their new team.
5. The 2nd season is a building season.
6. The game begins in S3. The team with the lowest point total(using the following scoring system) will be eliminated each season. Eliminated owners can stay if they choose but games against them will no longer count in the TWC. Tie-breaker for elimination is H2H. If still tied, another season will be played. Lowest between those two are eliminated. 2nd lowest, which could be the other involved in tie-breaker, is also eliminated.
7. Scoring is reset each season.
8. $50 entry fee. The 2nd place finisher keeps his money. 1st gets the rest.

Scoring(actual value to be determined once the number of participants are set):
A) H2H. Best record gets the most points, worst gets 1 point.
B) Overall. Best record gets the most points, worst gets 1 point.

***It was brought to my attention that playoff H2H is not included in overall. That was my intention but will ask remaining owners for their thoughts***

*Playoff points no longer apply. Two teams are in a division alone making an appearance "easier". At least in theory.
C) Only eligible for one(meaning the most you can get in the post-season is 5):
Playoff appearance 1 point
LCS appearance 2 points
WS Loss 3 points
WS Win 5 points

Interested(previous TWC owners will be given priority)
1. MikeT23
2. opie5
3. kcden
4. mitt0108
5. tropicana
6. tmantom3285
7. groth911
8.

dwoolery and royalokie are no longer playing HBD. shobob hasn't paid from TWC II(to the best of my knowledge).

This isn't a recruitment thread but, if you're interested, shoot me a sitemail. I'm not sure how many we'll be able to carry as all have to enter either the AL or NL. If you're in a world looking to fill with at least 5 openings in one league, shoot me a sitemail if your world will not object to our game within the game.

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schnoogens

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Double Mendoza sure could use some help filling

10/4/2016 12:00 PM

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Posted by Jtpsops on 10/4/2016 11:27:00 AM (view original):
If you can fit a 6th, I'd be interested.

I really don't want to start a ******* match but here are 4 reasons why that's a bad idea:

1. It took you a year to pay a $20 bet to me. And you defended the reason.
2. We got into daily ******* matches in Coop.
3. We got into daily ******* matches in Mantle.
4. We get into weekly ******* matches in the forums.

10/4/2016 2:31 PM

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Posted by schnoogens on 10/4/2016 12:00:00 PM (view original):
Double Mendoza sure could use some help filling

DM would be a good candidate but, even if we fill 8 slots, you still have 8 slots. So, basically, we'd join, wait a week, see no movement and go elsewhere. That doesn't help you.

10/4/2016 2:33 PM

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That said, an extended wait would allow us time to do our "draft" while you worked on filling the other side. I'll consult my minions.

10/4/2016 3:19 PM

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Mike, initial draft wise.....just drafting just Major Leaguers or full franchises including minors? Or are you thinking a set number of "rounds" where you could draft anyone?

Regardless, love the idea of the draft to shake up the rosters

10/4/2016 3:36 PM

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Posted by tmantom3285 on 10/4/2016 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Mike, initial draft wise.....just drafting just Major Leaguers or full franchises including minors? Or are you thinking a set number of "rounds" where you could draft anyone?

Regardless, love the idea of the draft to shake up the rosters

Full franchises. I haven't really solidified the number of rounds but I feel like a max of 30 should be more than enough. Somehow I doubt we'd need that many.

10/4/2016 3:43 PM

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Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2016 3:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tmantom3285 on 10/4/2016 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Mike, initial draft wise.....just drafting just Major Leaguers or full franchises including minors? Or are you thinking a set number of "rounds" where you could draft anyone?

Regardless, love the idea of the draft to shake up the rosters

Full franchises. I haven't really solidified the number of rounds but I feel like a max of 30 should be more than enough. Somehow I doubt we'd need that many.

Sounds great.... was originally thinking of suggesting 40 rounds to fill the 40-man right off the bat but I agree that so much is likely not needed

10/4/2016 3:50 PM

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Posted by tmantom3285 on 10/4/2016 3:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2016 3:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tmantom3285 on 10/4/2016 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Mike, initial draft wise.....just drafting just Major Leaguers or full franchises including minors? Or are you thinking a set number of "rounds" where you could draft anyone?

Regardless, love the idea of the draft to shake up the rosters

Full franchises. I haven't really solidified the number of rounds but I feel like a max of 30 should be more than enough. Somehow I doubt we'd need that many.
Sounds great.... was originally thinking of suggesting 40 rounds to fill the 40-man right off the bat but I agree that so much is likely not needed

I just realized something. The initial plan was to give ourselves the entire pre-season to trade away players in order to get "protected" players in return. To keep that intact, no "draft" can happen before budgets are set.

Which was why I was thinking 30 rounds would be too many. I think most of us would try to move players "pre-draft" thus leaving the pickin's slim.

10/4/2016 3:58 PM

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Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2016 3:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tmantom3285 on 10/4/2016 3:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2016 3:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tmantom3285 on 10/4/2016 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Mike, initial draft wise.....just drafting just Major Leaguers or full franchises including minors? Or are you thinking a set number of "rounds" where you could draft anyone?

Regardless, love the idea of the draft to shake up the rosters

Full franchises. I haven't really solidified the number of rounds but I feel like a max of 30 should be more than enough. Somehow I doubt we'd need that many.
Sounds great.... was originally thinking of suggesting 40 rounds to fill the 40-man right off the bat but I agree that so much is likely not needed
I just realized something. The initial plan was to give ourselves the entire pre-season to trade away players in order to get "protected" players in return. To keep that intact, no "draft" can happen before budgets are set.

Which was why I was thinking 30 rounds would be too many. I think most of us would try to move players "pre-draft" thus leaving the pickin's slim.

We could do the draft over the days of FA/Coach Signing and if a player is involved in a trade during that time just simply make it whatever came first (time player was drafted or time deal was accepted)

10/4/2016 6:18 PM

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Posted by schnoogens on 10/4/2016 12:00:00 PM (view original):
Double Mendoza sure could use some help filling

Seconded. A core of good owners there, but when the world went public to fill instead of being patient, all hell broke loose so to speak. The question I have is would the MWR work with your challenge? I assume it will since the result should be fixing some not so good franchises, but just asking. The long-term goal for the league is to get back to what it was and stay private with the MWR that we had to drop by going public. There are also some owners that had left that might come back if we knock off 8 openings at once...

10/4/2016 6:41 PM

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The first two seasons would not be subject to the MWR. The remaining are all out blitzes to win. But you can check our records in Foxx/BBWWA. No idea what your MWR is but, most likely, no one would fall below it. Our objective will be to win and we will set a salary cap for our final season(once we figure out when that will be) to avoid leaving a mess.

10/4/2016 7:50 PM

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My TWC records(I'm an impatient bastard)

BBWAA	SAL TW Challengers	24	$78.6M	74-88 (.457)	3	-
BBWAA	SAL TW Challengers	25	$63.4M	60-102 (.370)	3	-
BBWAA	SAL TW Challengers	26	$94.2M	95-67 (.586)	1	-
BBWAA	SAL TW Challengers	27	$120.6M	104-58 (.642)	1	-
BBWAA	SAL TW Challengers	28	$128.5M	98-64 (.605)	1	-
BBWAA	SAL TW Challengers	29	$127.7M	88-74 (.543)	1	-
BBWAA	SAL TW Challengers	30	$127.6M	105-57 (.648)	1	-
BBWAA	SAL TW Challengers	31	$137.0M	98-64 (.605)	1	-

Foxx	ALB UNNNHHHHSERS!!!!!!!!!	31	$49.8M	57-105 (.352)	4	-
Foxx	ALB UNNNHHHHSERS!!!!!!!!!	32	$79.7M	80-82 (.494)	2	-
Foxx	ALB UNNNHHHHSERS!!!!!!!!!	33	$106.8M	93-69 (.574)	1	-
Foxx	ALB UNNNHHHHSERS!!!!!!!!!	34	$118.2M	96-66 (.593)	1	-
Foxx	ALB UNNNHHHHSERS!!!!!!!!!	35	$125.3M	101-61 (.623)	1	-
Foxx	ALB UNNNHHHHSERS!!!!!!!!!	36	$130.2M	106-56 (.654)	1	-
Foxx	ALB UNNNHHHHSERS!!!!!!!!!	37	$133.0M	88-74 (.543)	1	-

10/4/2016 7:53 PM

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Posted by tmantom3285 on 10/4/2016 6:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2016 3:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tmantom3285 on 10/4/2016 3:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 10/4/2016 3:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tmantom3285 on 10/4/2016 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Mike, initial draft wise.....just drafting just Major Leaguers or full franchises including minors? Or are you thinking a set number of "rounds" where you could draft anyone?

Regardless, love the idea of the draft to shake up the rosters

Full franchises. I haven't really solidified the number of rounds but I feel like a max of 30 should be more than enough. Somehow I doubt we'd need that many.
Sounds great.... was originally thinking of suggesting 40 rounds to fill the 40-man right off the bat but I agree that so much is likely not needed
I just realized something. The initial plan was to give ourselves the entire pre-season to trade away players in order to get "protected" players in return. To keep that intact, no "draft" can happen before budgets are set.

Which was why I was thinking 30 rounds would be too many. I think most of us would try to move players "pre-draft" thus leaving the pickin's slim.
We could do the draft over the days of FA/Coach Signing and if a player is involved in a trade during that time just simply make it whatever came first (time player was drafted or time deal was accepted)

Too fast. The time between Opening Day and Roster Expansion gives everyone time. I'm not sitting here 24/7 waiting for some 'tard to pick. I figure, given 40ish days to pick, we can get it done.

10/4/2016 8:04 PM

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I think you got your league name wrong. I'm sure you meant TEC? If you are going to honor him by naming a league after him, you at least need to get the initials correct.

10/5/2016 11:57 AM (edited)

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