Bbwaa and the cy young, mvp votes Topic

rick porcello deserved a cy young, and I have no problem with that. But 2 writers left Verlander off their their 5 man ballot while 14 gave him a first place vote...how does that happen? Those two writers had Ja Happ and Aaron Sanchez on their ballot ahead of JV.

I think ink every writer needs to complete a WIS draft before submitting their ballot. It would help them avoid looking like a moron. Here's what the SIM has to say about the top AL starters in 2016:
OAV K/9 IP/G OBP OAV# WHIP# ERC# HR/
9#
BB/
9#
SALARY F/R
1 Verlander, Justin 2016 Detroit Tigers R 228 16 9 0 3.04 1.00 .207 10.04 6.70 .200 .210 1.02 2.45 0.85 2.33 $7,158,461 A/D+
2 Kluber, Corey 2016 Cleveland Indians R 215 18 9 0 3.14 1.06 .216 9.50 6.72 .250 .219 1.08 2.52 0.64 2.47 $6,565,711 A/D+
3 Porcello, Rick 2016 Boston Red Sox R 223 22 4 0 3.15 1.01 .230 7.63 6.76 .200 .233 1.03 2.55 0.65 1.34 $6,550,654 B/D-
4 Tanaka, Masahiro 2016 New York Yankees R 200 14 4 0 3.07 1.08 .236 7.44 6.44 .000 .239 1.10 2.70 0.70 1.68 $5,520,841 A/C
5 Estrada, Marco 2016 Toronto Blue Jays R 176 9 9 0 3.48 1.12 .203 8.44 6.07 .000 .206 1.14 2.77 0.84 3.43 $4,976,017 A+/D-
6 Sale, Chris 2016 Chicago White Sox L 227 17 10 0 3.34 1.04 .227 9.25 7.08 .167 .230 1.06 2.78 0.76 1.85 $6,406,297 A+/D
7 Sanchez, Aaron 2016 Toronto Blue Jays R 192 15 2 0 3.00 1.17 .224 7.55 6.40 .100 .227 1.19 2.80 0.48 3.05 $5,391,346 B+/B+
8 Fulmer, Michael 2016 Detroit Tigers R 159 11 7 0 3.06 1.12 .231 7.47 6.12 .000 .233 1.14 2.92 0.63 2.46 $4,209,045 A-/D+
9 Pomeranz, Drew 2016 Boston Red Sox L 171 11 12 0 3.32 1.18 .217 9.81 5.51 .143 .220 1.20 3.02 0.83 3.54 $4,536,502 D+/D-
10 Happ, J.A. 2016 Toronto Blue Jays L 195 20 4 0 3.18 1.17 .231 7.52 6.09 .286 .234 1.19 3.11 0.72 2.87 $4,914,447 A+/D

11/17/2016 5:05 AM

In games in which they allowed 2 earned runs or less, Porcello went 14W, 1L, and 1 no decision. Verlander went 12 W, 3L, and 7 no decisions. In other words, when he pitched very well, the Red Sox bullpen and hitters helped Porcello get the W 14 out of 16 times, while The Tigers bullpen and hitters could only help JV get 12 out of 22.

Porcello was deserving, but in the end, this was a team award.

11/17/2016 8:36 AM
Doesn't sound like you think Porcello was deserving at all. All of your stretched subtext seems to believe Verlander got screwed.
11/17/2016 12:50 PM
It's not new information that some Cy voters weight record more heavily than a lot of people would prefer (and I'm not just talking about the analytics crowd that who don't want it considered at all). Sanchez and Happ were a combined 35-6 to Verlander's 16-9.

Sanchez also led the AL in ERA. That's not a ridiculous pick.
11/17/2016 5:06 PM (edited)
Kate Upton says Verlander got screwed and she would know. She obviously knows all there is to know about MLB pitching. Surprised no team has hired her as pitching coach yet.
11/17/2016 1:01 PM
To be left off of two ballots though is a bit much. Can you make the argument that he didn't deserve to win, sure. But not in the top 5 at all.....that's a bit of a stretch.....and that's coming from a sox fan.....plus her Twitter rant was pretty amusing
11/18/2016 6:42 PM
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