Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 6:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 4:39:00 PM (view original):
Are you going to tell us how you know what the originators of the award used to define "value"?

Hello?

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 8:24:00 PM (view original):
Well, as he mumbled after Curry won his first one "I guess some people have a different meaning for valuable." Surely you know he said something very similar to that, right?

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/22/2016 6:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 11/22/2016 6:21:00 PM (view original):
No, and I don't think everyone always agrees on whether the best player is the most valuable.

Again, only the people who actually know what the word "valuable" means.

Plus the character considerations I guess. Certainly that impacted guys like Ted Williams in the past.

Posted by bad_luck on 11/22/2016 8:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 8:11:00 PM (view original):
Didn't we just agree that LeBron/Jordan were universally considered the best players in the NBA in their prime? And that the NBA is the best sport for an individual to display the skill that makes him the best?

Yes, but the fact that they were the best over a long period doesn't mean they were always the absolute best in every increment within that period.

You get this, right? You're just arguing for the sake of arguing now?

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/22/2016 8:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 6:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 4:39:00 PM (view original):
Are you going to tell us how you know what the originators of the award used to define "value"?

Hello?

Because I know what the word is supposed to mean and I know that 100 years ago educated people tended to be substantially more pedantic about precise usage of language.

Posted by bad_luck on 11/22/2016 8:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 8:24:00 PM (view original):
Well, as he mumbled after Curry won his first one "I guess some people have a different meaning for valuable." Surely you know he said something very similar to that, right?

Do you think Lebron was better when Curry won?

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 8:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/22/2016 8:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 8:24:00 PM (view original):
Well, as he mumbled after Curry won his first one "I guess some people have a different meaning for valuable." Surely you know he said something very similar to that, right?

Do you think Lebron was better when Curry won?

If I watched 5 minutes of the NBA over the last 5 years, it's because I fell asleep watching something else and it came on afterward. And I couldn't find the remote quickly enough.

1.

relative worth, merit, or importance:

the value of a college education; the value of a queen in chess.

2.

monetary or material worth, as in commerce or trade:

This piece of land has greatly increased in value.

3.

the worth of something in terms of the amount of other things for which it can be exchanged or in terms of some medium of exchange.

4.

equivalent worth or return in money, material, services, etc.:

to give value for value received.

5.

estimated or assigned worth; valuation:

a painting with a current value of $500,000.

usefulness or importance, as to the world, to a person, or for a purpose:

Posted by bad_luck on 11/22/2016 8:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 8:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/22/2016 8:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 8:24:00 PM (view original):
Well, as he mumbled after Curry won his first one "I guess some people have a different meaning for valuable." Surely you know he said something very similar to that, right?

Do you think Lebron was better when Curry won?

If I watched 5 minutes of the NBA over the last 5 years, it's because I fell asleep watching something else and it came on afterward. And I couldn't find the remote quickly enough.

So it's possible Curry was better?

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/22/2016 9:00:00 PM (view original):
I'm not going to look up who all the owners were in 1922 and 1924 when the leagues established MVPs. I think it's fair to assume that the majority were at least college graduates.o

Value is defined as the intrinsic worth of something. To wit:

1.

relative worth, merit, or importance:

the value of a college education; the value of a queen in chess.

2.

monetary or material worth, as in commerce or trade:

This piece of land has greatly increased in value.

3.

the worth of something in terms of the amount of other things for which it can be exchanged or in terms of some medium of exchange.

4.

equivalent worth or return in money, material, services, etc.:

to give value for value received.

5.

estimated or assigned worth; valuation:

a painting with a current value of $500,000.

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 9:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/22/2016 8:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 8:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/22/2016 8:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/22/2016 8:24:00 PM (view original):
Well, as he mumbled after Curry won his first one "I guess some people have a different meaning for valuable." Surely you know he said something very similar to that, right?

Do you think Lebron was better when Curry won?

If I watched 5 minutes of the NBA over the last 5 years, it's because I fell asleep watching something else and it came on afterward. And I couldn't find the remote quickly enough.

So it's possible Curry was better?

Was I unclear? I don't watch the NBA. I'm guessing, however, for a 10 year period, every team would have taken LeBron first in a re-draft each year. Therefore, I'm guessing he was the "best" player. Yet he never won more than 2 MVP in a row.