Posted by dahsdebater on 1/11/2017 5:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 1/11/2017 12:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by farleyfustle on 1/11/2017 10:19:00 AM (view original):
Without researching ill make my list-not in order.Ill skip the steroids users i wouldve voted for.3rd basemen are underrepresented in HOF(like their fielding isnt important).So ill put a couple of those in
1 Graig Nettles
2 Matt Williams
3 Tim Raines
4 Tommy John
5 Jim Kaat
6 Larry Walker
7. Fred Mcgriff
8 Dave Lopes
9 Larry Bowa
10 Lance Parrish
3rd basem,en being underrepresented in the Hall is not a good reason to elect a 3rd basemen who does not belong there. I loved Nettles, but I don't think he's a Hall of Famer. neither is Matt Williams or Larry Bowa or Davey Lopes. The rest I can see someone making an argument for.
That's a very complicated statement you're making and I suspect that a lot of people - including myself - would tend to disagree with it (Mike and Tec probably agree). Here's the thing. The HOF has between 21 and 24 players at each fielding position except catcher and 3B, but only 17 catchers and only 16 third basemen. Catcher makes a certain amount of sense. Due to the physical demands of the position, there are less guys who play long enough to merit serious consideration. The great majority of HOFers have at least 8000 career PAs, and only 11 guys have every played a substantial amount of catcher and reached that number, 12 if you want to count Biggio who made under 15% of his career starts there. So they're already stretching the rules a bit to get to 17 catchers. But there have been 37 guys at 3B. That's more than 2B but fewer than any other position (except C, of course). So maybe the real problem is that we have too many 2B in the Hall. Some people believe that logic dictates a certain proportion of players should probably be considered HOF-worthy, and if a position is way off of that it might mean the standards have been evaluated incorrectly for that position. With that being said, I don't see any slam dunk 3B candidates on the outside looking in. There's certainly an argument to be made that relative to their position Nettles and maybe Robin Ventura should be in. We'll see what happens with Scott Rolen. But none of these guys are as glaringly obvious to me as Ted Simmons.
TL/DR - Ted Simmons
Yeah, I disagree but not for the reason you think. Once you say "This position is underrepped, we have to let more in", you get guys like BL saying "The standard is that guy. You have to let this guy in."
Then I say "One mistake shouldn't lead to another."
Then we have a 77 page thread in which, at some point, BL says "What do you know? You said Edgar walked too much!!!"