Rule V Leg #55 - Draft Thread Topic

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Originally created many moons ago by examinerebb, this league makes any franchise a contender (the Tigers won season 53), and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good-natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season for non-playoff teams, then inverse order of win percentage of non-World Series playoff teams, with the WS runner-up picking 23rd, and the WS champ choosing last. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on. Division alignment will be determined by the commissioner after team selection is complete. We will attempt to keep divisions as close to real life as possible. Geography will be the first factor, but we will also attempt to maintain traditional rivalries if possible.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1969-present) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.

3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of each franchise's Rule V win percentage through all legs from which we have data (the worst teams pick first). Many thanks to schwarze for compiling this data. Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1969-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
No AAA
  • No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise)
  • If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
  • SLL limited to current series
  • Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1969-present
  • Tiebreaker for draft positions will be run differential from the previous season, worse differential picks first

    For those new to the Rule V fold:

    There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

    Glossary

    He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season. The scumbag finally won a couple of championships. Lady Karma has stunned us all with this development

    The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

    The Single Most Overrated Position Player of All Time (TSMOPPOAT) - Cal Ripken, Jr.

    (Both of those players designated by Vegas...see below)

    Vegas - jose can u c - Our Rule V Prediction King (emeritus)

    Newest Entry: Alleyviper's Favorite Third Baseman of All Time (AFTBOAT) - Scott Rolen (has picked him at least four drafts)
2/20/2017 5:42 AM
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Player Draft Order (Franchises taken are in RED)
1 Rays 8 492 804 0.3796
2 D'backs 16 1150 1442 0.4437
3 Tigers 26 1942 2271 0.4610
4 White Sox 12 916 1028 0.4712
5 Rockies 14 1081 1187 0.4766
6 Pirates 24 1823 1965 0.4813
7 Twins 27 2107 2268 0.4816
8 Rangers 20 1568 1673 0.4838
9 Angels 22 1740 1824 0.4882
10 Orioles 29 2314 2385 0.4924
11 Brewers 27 2164 2213 0.4944
12 Blue Jays 32 2565 2620 0.4947
13 Marlins 24 1928 1962 0.4956
14 Expos 36 2909 2926 0.4985
15 Red Sox 36 2918 2915 0.5003
16 Mariners 35 2838 2833 0.5004
17 Phillies 36 2933 2902 0.5027
18 Padres 28 2289 2247 0.5046
19 Indians 35 2865 2806 0.5052
20 Mets 33 2705 2642 0.5059
21 Cubs 27 2218 2156 0.5071
22 Giants 35 2897 2775 0.5108
23 Reds 29 2410 2289 0.5129
24 Royals 31 2579 2445 0.5133
25 Braves 35 2914 2756 0.5139
26 Cardinals 36 3017 2816 0.5172
27 Yankees 32 2729 2455 0.5264
28 Dodgers 35 3007 2665 0.5301
29 A's 36 3113 2720 0.5337
30 Astros 36 3149 2589 0.5488
2/22/2017 12:15 PM (edited)
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Franchise Draft Order (timed draft starts Tuesday 2/21)
  1. deathdealer 54-108 .333 Houston Astros#
  2. newarkwilder 70-92 . 432 Los Angeles Dodgers#
  3. mussopini23 70-92 .432 Atlanta Braves#
  4. Robin4 72-90 .444 Toronto Blue Jays#
  5. spoonfed 73-89 .451 Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals#
  6. dilligafdbp 75-87 .463 Detroit Tigers#
  7. spikeboots 78-84 .481 New York Yankees#
  8. strubros 79-83 .488^ New York Mets
  9. ChitownBluz 80-82 .494 Chicago White Sox#
  10. buddhagamer 80-82 .494 Chicago Cubs#
  11. rbow923 81-81 .500 Oakland Athletics#
  12. alice 82-80 .506 Miami Marlins#
  13. llcoach 82-80 .506 Seattle Mariners
  14. tridentric 83-79 .512 Arizona Diamondbacks#
  15. pumpkinmcp 84-78 .519 Kansas City Royals#
  16. ff09 85-77 .525 San Francisco Giants#
  17. specsman 81-81 .500* San Diego Padres#
  18. tjefferson 82-80 .506* Tampa Bay Rays#
  19. nordawg 85-77 .525* Pittsburgh Pirates
  20. sinfonian11 90-72 .556* Boston Red Sox#
  21. shaybee 94-68 .580* St. Louis Cardinals#
  22. alleyviper 105-57 .648* Milwaukee Brewers#
  23. Chisock 86-76 .531% Baltimore Orioles#
  24. schwarze 93-69 .574$ Minnesota Twins#
# First round keepers sent

^ new owner
* playoff team
% WS runner-up
$ WS champion

Division Alignment:
NL East: Expos/Nats, Mets, Braves, Marlins
NL Central: Pirates, Cubs, Cardinals, Brewers
NL West: Dodgers, Giants, Diamondbacks, Padres
AL East: Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Orioles
AL Central: White Sox, Twins, Rays, Tigers
AL West: Mariners, Athletics, Royals, Astros

Owner list for sitemailing: deathdealer; newarkwilder; mussopini23; Robin4; spoonfed; dilligafdbp; spikeboots; strubros; ChitownBluz; buddhagamer; rbow923; alice; llcoach; tridentric; pumpkinmcp; ff09; specsman; tjefferson; nordawg; sinfonian11; shaybee; alleyviper; Chisock; schwarze
3/1/2017 3:35 PM (edited)
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Rule V Player Draft - First Round (timed schedule starts FRIDAY 2/24)
  1. tjefferon - Tampa Bay Rays Roger Clemens - HOU
  2. tridentric - Arizona Diamondbacks Hideo Nomo - LAD
  3. dilligafdbp - Detroit Tigers Orel Hershiser - LAD (Dodgers off the board)
  4. ChitownBluz - Chicago White Sox Kevin Millwood - ATL
  5. nordawg - Pittsburgh Pirates Juan Marichal - SFG
  6. schwarze - Minnesota Twins Mike Norris - OAK
  7. Chisock - Baltimore Orioles JR Richard - HOU (Astros off the board)
  8. alleyviper - Milwaukee Brewers Tim Raines - MON/WSH
  9. Robin4 - Toronto Blue Jays David Cone - KCR
  10. alice - Miami Marlins Tim Hudson - OAK (Athletics off the board)
  11. spoonfed - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals Javy Lopez - ATL (Braves off the board)
  12. sinfonian11 - Boston Red Sox Mark Eichhorn - TOR
  13. llcoach - Seattle Mariners Joe Torre - STL
  14. specsman - San Diego Padres Madison Bumgarner - SFG (Giants off the board)
  15. strubros - New York Mets Rico Petrocelli - BOS
  16. buddhagamer - Chicago Cubs Derek Jeter - NYY
  17. ff09 - San Francisco Giants Willie McGee - STL
  18. pumpkinmcp - Kansas City Royals John Olerud - TOR (Blue Jays off the board)
  19. mussopini23 - Atlanta Braves Alan Trammell - DET
  20. shaybee - St. Louis Cardinals Bruce Sutter - CHC
  21. spikeboots - New York Yankees Willie Stargell - PIT
  22. newarkwilder - Los Angeles Dodgers Robinson Cano - NYY (Yankees off the board)
  23. rbow923 - Oakland Athletics Carlton Fisk - BOS (Red Sox off the board)
  24. deathdealer - Houston Astros Gary Carter - MON/WSH (Expo/Nats off the board)
Rule V Player Draft - Second Round (timed schedule starts TUESDAY 2/28)
  1. tjefferon - Tampa Bay Rays Carl Yastrzemski - BOS
  2. tridentric - Arizona Diamondbacks Jose Altuve - HOU
  3. dilligafdbp - Detroit Tigers Rickey Henderson - NYY
  4. ChitownBluz - Chicago White Sox Bobby Murcer - NYY (Yankees off the board)
  5. nordawg - Pittsburgh Pirates Dick Allen - CHW
  6. schwarze - Minnesota Twins Fernando Valenzuela - LAD
  7. Chisock - Baltimore Orioles Jacob DeGrom - NYM
  8. alleyviper - Milwaukee Brewers Pedro Guerrero - LAD (Dodgers off the board)
  9. Robin4 - Toronto Blue Jays Ted Simmons - STL
  10. alice - Miami Marlins Juan Guzman - TOR
  11. spoonfed - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals Paul Molitor - MIL
  12. sinfonian11 - Boston Red Sox Larry Walker - MON/WSH
  13. llcoach - Seattle Mariners Dennis Eckersley - OAK
  14. specsman - San Diego Padres Rich Aurillia - SFG
  15. strubros - New York Mets Dee Gordon - MIA
  16. buddhagamer - Chicago Cubs Don Sutton - HOU (Astros off the board)
  17. ff09 - San Francisco Giants Carlos Guillen - DET
  18. pumpkinmcp - Kansas City Royals Jose Reyes - NYM (Mets off the board)
  19. mussopini23 - Atlanta Braves Sean Doolittle - OAK (Athletics off the board)
  20. shaybee - St. Louis Cardinals CC Sabathia - MIL (Brewers off the board)
  21. spikeboots - New York Yankees Tony Fernandez - TOR (Blue Jays off the board)
  22. newarkwilder - Los Angeles Dodgers Jim Edmonds - STL (Cardinals off the board)
  23. rbow923 - Oakland Athletics TSMOPPOAT - BAL
  24. deathdealer - Houston Astros Gary Sheffield - MIA (Marlins off the board)
Rule V Player Draft - Third Round (timed schedule begins FRIDAY 3/3)
  1. tjefferon - Tampa Bay Rays Dave Righetti - NYY
  2. tridentric - Arizona Diamondbacks Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS
  3. dilligafdbp - Detroit Tigers Keith Hernandez - STL
  4. ChitownBluz - Chicago White Sox Bill Madlock - CHC
  5. nordawg - Pittsburgh Pirates Kyle Hendricks - CHC (Cubs off the board)
  6. schwarze - Minnesota Twins Justin Duscherer - OAK
  7. Chisock - Baltimore Orioles Tim Burke - MON/WSH
  8. alleyviper - Milwaukee Brewers Andy Van Slyke - PIT
  9. Robin4 - Toronto Blue Jays Cesar Cedeno - HOU
  10. alice - Miami Marlins Don Matingly - NYY (Yankees off the board)
  11. spoonfed - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals Mark McGwire - OAK (Athletics off the board)
  12. sinfonian11 - Boston Red Sox Kenley Jansen - LAD
  13. llcoach - Seattle Mariners Yadier Molina - STL (Cardinals off the board)
  14. specsman - San Diego Padres Will Clark - SFG
  15. strubros - New York Mets Dennis Rasmussen - KCR
  16. buddhagamer - Chicago Cubs Willie Wilson - KCR (Royals off the board)
  17. ff09 - San Francisco Giants Koji Uehara - BOS (Red Sox off the board)
  18. pumpkinmcp - Kansas City Royals Lance Johnson - NYM
  19. mussopini23 - Atlanta Braves Mike Adams - SDP
  20. shaybee - St. Louis Cardinals Jonathan Lucroy - MIL
  21. spikeboots - New York Yankees Doug Fister - DET
  22. newarkwilder - Los Angeles Dodgers Ken Forsch - HOU (Astros off the board)
  23. rbow923 - Oakland Athletics Marcus Giles - ATL
  24. deathdealer - Houston Astros JJ Putz - SEA
3/4/2017 8:38 PM (edited)
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Rule V - List of keepers/draft picks

tjefferson - Tampa Bay Rays: Evan Longoria, Ben Zobrist, Carlos Pena, Fernando Rodney, Joaquin Benoit, Roger Clemens - HOU, Jake McGee, Carl Yastrzemski - BOS, Grant Balfour, Dave Righetti - NYY

tridentric - Arizona Diamondbacks: Curt Schilling, Randy Johnson, Paul Goldschmidt, Luis Gonzalez, AJ Pollock, Hideo Nomo - LAD, Matt Williams, Jose Altuve - HOU, Dan Haren, Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS

dilligafdbp - Detroit Tigers: Miguel Cabrera, Magglio Ordonez, Tony Phillips, Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer, Orel Hershiser - LAD, Curtis Granderson, Rickey Henderson - NYY, Doyle Alexander, Keith Hernandez - STL

ChitownBluz - Chicago White Sox: Frank Thomas, Albert Belle, Wilbur Wood, Chris Sale, Luis Aparicio, Kevin Millwood - ATL, La Marr Hoyt, Bobby Murcer - NYY, Keith Foulke, Bill Madlock - CHC

nordawg - Pittsburgh Pirates: Doug Drabek, Barry Bonds, Brian Giles, Jay Bell, Jason Kendall, Juan Marichal - SFG, Rich Gossage, Dick Allen - CHW, John Candelaria, Kyle Hendricks - CHC

schwarze - Minnesota Twins: Joe Mauer, Rod Carew, Chuck Knoblauch, Kirby Puckett, Johan Santana, Mike Norris - OAK, Joe Nathan, Fernando Valenzuela - LAD, Lyman Bostock, Justin Duscherer - OAK

Chisock - Baltimore Orioles: Roberto Alomar, Brady Anderson, Frank Robinson, Mike Cuellar, Jim Palmer, JR Richard - HOU, Zach Britton, Jacob DeGrom - NYM, Andrew Miller, Tim Burke - MON/WSH

alleyviper - Milwaukee Brewers: Robin Yount, Teddy Higuera, Mike Caldwell, Ben Sheets, Rollie Fingers, Tim Raines - MON/WSH, Ryan Braun, Pedro Guerrero - LAD, Doug Jones, Andy Van Slyke - PIT

Robin4 - Toronto Blue Jays: Roger Clemens, Roy Halladay, Carlos Delgado, Jose Bautista, Josh Donaldson, David Cone - KCR, Roberto Alomar, Ted Simmons - STL, BJ Ryan, Cesar Cedeno - HOU

alice - Miami Marlins: Kevin Brown, Luis Castillo, Miguel Cabrera, Hanley Ramirez, Mike Piazza, Tim Hudson - OAK, Jose Fernandez, Juan Guzman - TOR, AJ Burnett, Don Mattingly - NYY

spoonfed - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals: Pedro Martinez, Max Scherzer, Daniel Murphy, Bryce Harper, Vladimir Guerrero, Javy Lopez - ATL, Pascual Perez, Paul Molitor - MIL, Jeff Reardon, Mark McGwire - OAK,

sinfonian11 - Boston Red Sox: Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, Wade Boggs, Fred Lynn, Derek Lowe, Mark Eichhorn - TOR, Nomar Garciaparra, Larry Walker - MON/WSH, Dustin Pedroia, Kenley Jansen - LAD

llcoach - Seattle Mariners: Randy Johnson, Felix Hernandez, Ken Griffey, Jr., Alex Rodriguez, Ichiro Suzuki, Joe Torre - STL, Bret Boone, Dennis Eckersley - OAK, Freddy Garcia, Yadier Molina - STL

specsman - San Diego Padres: Tony Gwynn, Ken Caminiti, Randy Jones, Kevin Brown, Jake Peavy, Madison Bumgarner - SFG, Mark Loretta, Rich Aurillia - SFG, Trevor Hoffman, Will Clark - SFG

strubros - New York Mets: Tom Seaver, Dwight Gooden, Pedro Martinez, Matt Harvey, Carlos Beltran, Rico Petrocelli - BOS, John Olerud, Dee Gordon - MIA, Billy Wagner, Dennis Rasmussen - KCR

buddhagamer - Chicago Cubs: Jake Arrieta, Greg Maddux, Ryne Sandberg, Sammy Sosa, Derrek Lee, Derek Jeter - NYY, Rick Wilkins, Don Sutton - HOU, Aroldis Chapman, Willie Wilson - KCR

ff09 - San Francisco Giants: Barry Bonds, Buster Posey, Willie McCovey, Jason Schmidt, Tim Lincecum, Willie McGee - STL, Jeff Kent, Carlos Guillen - DET, Kevin Mitchell, Koji Uehara - BOS

pumpkinmcp - Kansas City Royals: George Brett, Darrell Porter, Bret Saberhagen, Kevin Appier, Zack Greinke, John Olerud - TOR, Roger Nelson, Jose Reyes - NYM, Wade Davis, Lance Johnson - NYM

mussopini23 - Atlanta Braves: Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, Craig Kimbrel, Chipper Jones, Hank Aaron, Alan Trammell - DET, Kris Medlen, Sean Doolittle - OAK, Phil Niekro, Mike Adams - SDP

shaybee - St. Louis Cardinals: John Tudor, Bob Gibson, Chris Carpenter, Mark McGwire, Albert Pujols, Bruce Sutter - CHC, AFTBOAT, CC Sabathia - MIL, Ozzie Smith, Jonathan Lucroy - MIL

spikeboots - New York Yankees: Alex Rodriguez, Paul O'Neill, Ron Guidry, Catfish Hunter, Fritz Peterson, Willie Stargell - PIT, Bernie Williams, Tony Fernandez - TOR, Mariano Rivera, Doug Fister - DET

newarkwilder - Los Angeles Dodgers: Clayton Kershaw, Zack Greinke, Don Sutton, Mike Piazza, Adrian Beltre, Robinson Cano - NYY, Kevin Brown, Jim Edmonds - STL, Hong-Chih Kuo, Ken Forsch - HOU

rbow923 - Oakland Athletics: Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter, Rickey Henderson, Jason Giambi, Josh Donaldson, Carlton Fisk - BOS, Jose Canseco, TSMOPPOAT - BAL, Andrew Bailey, Marcus Giles - ATL

deathdealer - Houston Astros: TSMOPOAT, Mike Scott, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Lance Berkman, Gary Carter - MON/WSH, Larry Dierker, Gary Sheffield - MIA, Don Wilson, JJ Putz - SEA
3/4/2017 8:39 PM (edited)
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Let's do this!
2/20/2017 12:30 PM
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2/20/2017 1:35 PM
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Times added for tomorrow.
2/20/2017 5:11 PM
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newark doesn't check in too often. between him and pini, we'll be lucky to be ahead of schedule by tomorrow morning. Timing is everything and West Coast timing is just a bit off. Catch y'all tomorrow.
2/20/2017 8:23 PM
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Dodgers

and c'mon ric, it's a holiday and it's 60 degrees in February; you're absolutely right I'm not going to be checking all day to see if the Rule V order is posted yet.
2/20/2017 10:56 PM
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60 degrees. I knew you lived in the frozen Northwest but that is brutal. I barely go outside without a parka in that weather. lol
2/21/2017 12:39 AM
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60 degrees? In Florida we call that "freezing".
2/21/2017 1:50 AM
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you are correct rbow
2/21/2017 6:09 AM
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a parka? man, I knew west coasters were soft, but that's just sad.
2/21/2017 10:05 AM
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Well I guess I'm a west coaster, west coast of Florida that is.
2/21/2017 11:04 AM
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