Roberto Clemente Topic

What's up with the SIM's defensive ratings for Roberto Clemente? Take 1961 for example; Real Life - 1st in putouts as RF, 1st in assists (27), 3rd in range factor. Yet in the SIM he has a D+ range? Needs reviewed and fixed I believe.
3/4/2017 1:14 PM

I concur.
3/4/2017 1:35 PM
Something else weird I noticed. 2016 Miguel Cabrera, WIS listed him with a .846 fielding% at 3rd. He played one game at third, made no errors. He has a career .956 fielding% at 3rd, 110 points higher. So where do they get their numbers?
3/16/2017 1:21 PM
Trump?
3/16/2017 6:47 PM
Russians again.?
3/16/2017 7:21 PM
Posted by ybjsports on 3/4/2017 1:14:00 PM (view original):
What's up with the SIM's defensive ratings for Roberto Clemente? Take 1961 for example; Real Life - 1st in putouts as RF, 1st in assists (27), 3rd in range factor. Yet in the SIM he has a D+ range? Needs reviewed and fixed I believe.
First in RF for right fielders though. There's no separation between CF and RF so only CF get the A ranges (usually anyway).

But yes range in the sim could use a lot of work.
3/17/2017 10:12 PM
Posted by d_rock97 on 3/16/2017 1:21:00 PM (view original):
Something else weird I noticed. 2016 Miguel Cabrera, WIS listed him with a .846 fielding% at 3rd. He played one game at third, made no errors. He has a career .956 fielding% at 3rd, 110 points higher. So where do they get their numbers?
Less than 20 games at a position they do some kind of prorating/weighted average
3/17/2017 10:14 PM
Re: YBJ and Clemente.....

It seems its hard to figure out the fielding ratings for a number of players. For Clemente, I though that maybe the D+ range is related to the league average range factor in RF. So, I looked that up (Baseball reference.com). Clemente's TOTAL OF range factor in 1961 is 2.05, composed of his 2.01 in RF and 7.2 in centerfield (where he only played 5 innings). The League range factor in RF was 1.93, and in CF, 2.7 -- so he was better than average compared to other OFs at both positions.

Now, if you look at the single-season RF records for RF, you see that Clemente's 2.01 doesn't make the list of the top 500, but that doesn't mean its not better than average (George Vukovich, 1984, 2.928, has the best single-season range factor for a right fielder).

Explain this . . .In a league I am in now, Mike Trout (2015), who has a range factor of 2.873 (382nd all time in CF), has made 25+ plays in 1,266 innings.....
Is that normal? Or unusual? The SIM data -- which has him playing an average of 81 games in the OF (seems odd in 14 SIM seasons) -- has him at + 14 for 81 games, so about normal for the SIM. So, what should someone expect from, say, Kirby Puckett, who had the highest range factor for a CF in a single season.....3.67? I can't figure it out.....Puckett's range factor is 0.8 higher.....or almost 28% better than Trout....so, would that mean theoretically Puckett could be + 32 at the same point in the season as Trout? (Assuming same number of plays).....


3/20/2017 4:26 PM
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