To this day, I really have no idea if WIS values positional attributes the same way real life values those attributes. So, I just put random numbers in my role ratings and hope for the best.

I do the same.

Yup. That's really what we all do. I'd say it has worked pretty well for you AB and Zorzii.

do you guys actually use the player roles? I never found a way to make them better than my eyeball evaluation

Posted by fd343ny on 3/19/2017 12:00:00 PM (view original):
do you guys actually use the player roles? I never found a way to make them better than my eyeball evaluation

I set up the role and it really helped while scouting under 2.0 too. It does not work under 3.0 with all these letters.

I use a form of player roles. Regular player roles are VERY flawed. I have 4 role ratings for Off, De, BH, and Reb. I have 2 different DEs (1-2-3 and 4-5) and 4 different OFFs which I take the max of (Slasher (Ath, Sp, BH), LP (LP and Ath), Per (Lots of PE, BH, Speed), Speed/Slashing Shooter (Pe, BH, Sp)). I have 1 rating for Reb and 1 for BH. I will then eyeball those 4 numbers and stamina to figure out how much I want a player. That being said, I will also eyeball a player's ratings.

Posted by cubcub113 on 3/19/2017 1:38:00 PM (view original):
I use a form of player roles. Regular player roles are VERY flawed. I have 4 role ratings for Off, De, BH, and Reb. I have 2 different DEs (1-2-3 and 4-5) and 4 different OFFs which I take the max of (Slasher (Ath, Sp, BH), LP (LP and Ath), Per (Lots of PE, BH, Speed), Speed/Slashing Shooter (Pe, BH, Sp)). I have 1 rating for Reb and 1 for BH. I will then eyeball those 4 numbers and stamina to figure out how much I want a player. That being said, I will also eyeball a player's ratings.

Jesus Christ. This sounds so unbelievably complex.

Posted by ab90 on 3/19/2017 10:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cubcub113 on 3/19/2017 1:38:00 PM (view original):
I use a form of player roles. Regular player roles are VERY flawed. I have 4 role ratings for Off, De, BH, and Reb. I have 2 different DEs (1-2-3 and 4-5) and 4 different OFFs which I take the max of (Slasher (Ath, Sp, BH), LP (LP and Ath), Per (Lots of PE, BH, Speed), Speed/Slashing Shooter (Pe, BH, Sp)). I have 1 rating for Reb and 1 for BH. I will then eyeball those 4 numbers and stamina to figure out how much I want a player. That being said, I will also eyeball a player's ratings.

Jesus Christ. This sounds so unbelievably complex.

But I'm also high as hell, so take it or love it.

Posted by ab90 on 3/19/2017 10:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ab90 on 3/19/2017 10:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cubcub113 on 3/19/2017 1:38:00 PM (view original):
I use a form of player roles. Regular player roles are VERY flawed. I have 4 role ratings for Off, De, BH, and Reb. I have 2 different DEs (1-2-3 and 4-5) and 4 different OFFs which I take the max of (Slasher (Ath, Sp, BH), LP (LP and Ath), Per (Lots of PE, BH, Speed), Speed/Slashing Shooter (Pe, BH, Sp)). I have 1 rating for Reb and 1 for BH. I will then eyeball those 4 numbers and stamina to figure out how much I want a player. That being said, I will also eyeball a player's ratings.

Jesus Christ. This sounds so unbelievably complex.

But I'm also high as hell, so take it or love it.

leave it.

14 championships I'll trust you. I love statistics though.

Posted by fd343ny on 3/19/2017 12:00:00 PM (view original):
do you guys actually use the player roles? I never found a way to make them better than my eyeball evaluation

Never used it either. Seems like a lot of work, that could be beneficial if done right.

I was skeptical to lean on it from the start b/c I did not want any prospect to slip past my filter.

I use an Excel sheet with a formula to get an idea of where a player is right now in terms of talent compared to other players. But then I have to look at potential, and that helps me make my final decision. But then I also have to look at if this is a player I have a reasonable shot at getting. If he's 500 miles away, and he likes a different offense or defense, my chances of winning a battle for him are not good, and he will eat a lot of my budget.