Posted by bad_luck on 4/18/2017 6:05:00 PM (view original):
I'd probably go Sheff over Cabrera if we're only looking at the years they played with the Marlins.

DONTRELLE WILLIS!

That's the thing with newer franchises. They don't have the "AT" part yet.

For the Twins....don't forget, they were the Washington Senators for six decades. I love Kirby Puckett and Harmon Killebrew, but the greatest in the full history of the franchise is Walter Johnson.

For the original 16...

Yankees - George Herman Ruth
Red Sox - Ted Williams
Tigers - Ty Cobb
White Sox - Frank Thomas
Indians - Napoleon Lajoie
Athletics - Rickey Henderson
Senators/Twins - Walter Johnson
Browns/Orioles - Jim Palmer

Giants - Willie Mays
Dodgers - Duke Snider
Phillies - Mike Schmidt
Braves - Hank Aaron
Pirates - Honus Wagner
Reds - Pete Rose
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Cardinals - Stan Musial

I was just about to ask "Though Jackie Robinson is really what prompted the thread, has anyone named a Dodger position player(pitchers were for another day)?" and then you did.

I was wondering if Robinson or Snider was the GOAT for the Dodgers. I see you chose Snider. RACIST!!!

Posted by evil_twin on 4/18/2017 6:34:00 PM (view original):
For the original 16...

Yankees - George Herman Ruth
Red Sox - Ted Williams
Tigers - Ty Cobb
White Sox - Frank Thomas
Indians - Napoleon Lajoie
Athletics - Rickey Henderson
Senators/Twins - Walter Johnson
Browns/Orioles - Jim Palmer

Giants - Willie Mays
Dodgers - Duke Snider
Phillies - Mike Schmidt
Braves - Hank Aaron
Pirates - Honus Wagner
Reds - Pete Rose
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Cardinals - Stan Musial

Replace Frank Thomas with Joe Borchard and we're good

Posted by evil_twin on 4/18/2017 6:34:00 PM (view original):
For the original 16...

Yankees - George Herman Ruth
Red Sox - Ted Williams
Tigers - Ty Cobb
White Sox - Frank Thomas
Indians - Napoleon Lajoie
Athletics - Rickey Henderson
Senators/Twins - Walter Johnson
Browns/Orioles - Jim Palmer

Giants - Willie Mays
Dodgers - Duke Snider
Phillies - Mike Schmidt
Braves - Hank Aaron
Pirates - Honus Wagner
Reds - Pete Rose
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Cardinals - Stan Musial

Only one I would have issue with is Palmer vs. Ripken for the O's. NOBODY thinks that Palmer was one of the ten best pitchers ever.

Votto over Rose for the Reds, maybe?

Posted by wylie715 on 4/18/2017 7:10:00 PM (view original):
Votto over Rose for the Reds, maybe?

Votto wouldn't crack top three

Rose-Bench-Morgan would all be above him. Tony Perez and Ernie Lombardi would be close

Posted by MikeT23 on 4/17/2017 11:10:00 PM (view original):
I'd take Rickey for the A's. Rickey says pick Rickey.

rickey say

rickey don't says



but what rickey says

right as rain

Posted by toddcommish on 4/18/2017 6:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by evil_twin on 4/18/2017 6:34:00 PM (view original):
For the original 16...

Yankees - George Herman Ruth
Red Sox - Ted Williams
Tigers - Ty Cobb
White Sox - Frank Thomas
Indians - Napoleon Lajoie
Athletics - Rickey Henderson
Senators/Twins - Walter Johnson
Browns/Orioles - Jim Palmer

Giants - Willie Mays
Dodgers - Duke Snider
Phillies - Mike Schmidt
Braves - Hank Aaron
Pirates - Honus Wagner
Reds - Pete Rose
Cubs - Ernie Banks
Cardinals - Stan Musial

Only one I would have issue with is Palmer vs. Ripken for the O's. NOBODY thinks that Palmer was one of the ten best pitchers ever.

Doesn't mean he wasn't more valuable than Ripken over his career. I'd go Ripken myself, but Palmer is not out of the question. He had a very impressive career.

Posted by toddcommish on 4/18/2017 7:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 4/18/2017 7:10:00 PM (view original):
Votto over Rose for the Reds, maybe?

Votto wouldn't crack top three

Rose-Bench-Morgan would all be above him. Tony Perez and Ernie Lombardi would be close

I guess so. I'd put Bench, Morgan and Votto before Rose though.

As great as Willie Mays was, someone could make an argument for Christy Mathewson as well. Granted, Baseball-Reference.com isn't the beat-all-end-all of argument solvers but still...

Mays: 12 times was the teams best player - went to three World Series - won one.
Mathewson: 10 times was the teams best player - went to five World Series - won one (includes 1904 when there was no World Series but the Giants would have been the N.L. representative).

I still think Mays wins this one but to me it's closer than some may think...

Posted by thejuice6 on 4/23/2017 8:03:00 PM (view original):
As great as Willie Mays was, someone could make an argument for Christy Mathewson as well. Granted, Baseball-Reference.com isn't the beat-all-end-all of argument solvers but still...

Mays: 12 times was the teams best player - went to three World Series - won one.
Mathewson: 10 times was the teams best player - went to five World Series - won one (includes 1904 when there was no World Series but the Giants would have been the N.L. representative).

I still think Mays wins this one but to me it's closer than some may think...

Agreed. Mathewson was considered the best pitcher of his time. You could argue he STILL is the greatest pitcher ever.

Cubs: Ben Zobrist, Kyle Schwarber, Miguel Montero, Carl Edwards Jr. and Mike Monty. Also Michael Martinez.