Posted by MikeT23 on 10/31/2017 9:00:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cubcub113 on 10/30/2017 9:09:00 PM (view original):
Haha just trying to **** off mike a little.

That's dumb. I chose "abstain" in the past election.

Which turned out to be a vote for Trump. The election was Mike's fault guys.

I just added a coach in 4 worlds if that means anything

bumping

June 17th 2018:

Naismith (finished NT a couple of days ago), World 1:
Season 103:
D-1 is 97.
D-2 is 63.
D-3 is 70.

Smith (midseason):
Season 103:
D-1 is 112.
D-2 is 71.
D-3 is 78.

Crum (just started exhibitions), World 7:
Season 98:
D-1 is 99.
D-2 is 61.
D-3 is 65.

Phelan:
Season 119:
D-1 is 128.
D-2 is 74.
D-3 is 63. <--- 7 seasons ago it was at 47ish.

OP updated.

Using 1 year before 3.0 launched as a baseline (and a few months before announcement), HD is down-

D1- 19%
D2- 42%
D3- 41%
Total- 33%

Posted by Benis on 6/19/2018 6:52:00 PM (view original):
OP updated.

Using 1 year before 3.0 launched as a baseline (and a few months before announcement), HD is down-

D1- 19%
D2- 42%
D3- 41%
Total- 33%

That's pretty sad. Hopefully this game isn't too expensive for SportsHub to operate. I have no doubt they'll shut it down if they lose money long-term, or at least close some/most worlds.

Posted by ppk700 on 6/21/2018 6:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 6/19/2018 6:52:00 PM (view original):
OP updated.

Using 1 year before 3.0 launched as a baseline (and a few months before announcement), HD is down-

D1- 19%
D2- 42%
D3- 41%
Total- 33%

That's pretty sad. Hopefully this game isn't too expensive for SportsHub to operate. I have no doubt they'll shut it down if they lose money long-term, or at least close some/most worlds.

They could sell it off rather than shut it down. You never know.

OP updated.

Discuss.

The DI populations are actually up since after he initially post-upgrade attrition, while DII and DIII continue to plummet, which does lend some support to those who think it might be time to just ax DII and DIII. That might be the way to go.

Posted by gdog13cavs on 10/17/2018 5:56:00 PM (view original):
The DI populations are actually up since after he initially post-upgrade attrition, while DII and DIII continue to plummet, which does lend some support to those who think it might be time to just ax DII and DIII. That might be the way to go.

Yep, I honestly believe its part of the retention problem. It really blows having to work your way up to a crappy D1 school by starting at D3.

Just let them start at the crappy D1 school.

Posted by crabman26 on 10/17/2018 6:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gdog13cavs on 10/17/2018 5:56:00 PM (view original):
The DI populations are actually up since after he initially post-upgrade attrition, while DII and DIII continue to plummet, which does lend some support to those who think it might be time to just ax DII and DIII. That might be the way to go.

Yep, I honestly believe its part of the retention problem. It really blows having to work your way up to a crappy D1 school by starting at D3.

Just let them start at the crappy D1 school.

D2/D3 populations were pretty healthy before. The change has made D3 worse which includes the introduction to the game. That's why the D3 numbers are low. No new people and no one sticks around for more than 1 season!

Posted by Benis on 10/17/2018 6:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by crabman26 on 10/17/2018 6:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gdog13cavs on 10/17/2018 5:56:00 PM (view original):
The DI populations are actually up since after he initially post-upgrade attrition, while DII and DIII continue to plummet, which does lend some support to those who think it might be time to just ax DII and DIII. That might be the way to go.

Yep, I honestly believe its part of the retention problem. It really blows having to work your way up to a crappy D1 school by starting at D3.

Just let them start at the crappy D1 school.

D2/D3 populations were pretty healthy before. The change has made D3 worse which includes the introduction to the game. That's why the D3 numbers are low. No new people and no one sticks around for more than 1 season!

Good point, they were healthier. I know this isnt a popular opinion, but it'd be nice if D2 could only recruit D2, and same with D3.
I dont recall 2.0 ever allowing me to recruit top guys at their positions from D2 schools, or if it did I dont ever remember being a legit threat to a D1 school....now they are legit threats.

This just means you almost have to recruit D1 type players at both D2 and D3.

Gosh, maybe allowing D3 teams to recruit D1 players ended up being bad for both D3 and D1. Who saw that coming?!?!?!?

Pulling from an old thread...

”...think about the previous version of the game. Recruiting was just as complex, and also featured drop downs and pull downs; and pulling it off required more detailed knowledge about the formulas determining those outcomes than they do now. Players on championship teams were literally unavailable to new players and lower prestige teams. They were locked out by vision. But D2 and D3 was more populated. Not because the game was easier for new players (retention has always sucked, which was a reason 3.0 was launched in the first place), but because more players were parked in D2 and D3. They were parked, because D1 was bad.”

Posted by shoe3 on 10/17/2018 6:55:00 PM (view original):
Pulling from an old thread...

”...think about the previous version of the game. Recruiting was just as complex, and also featured drop downs and pull downs; and pulling it off required more detailed knowledge about the formulas determining those outcomes than they do now. Players on championship teams were literally unavailable to new players and lower prestige teams. They were locked out by vision. But D2 and D3 was more populated. Not because the game was easier for new players (retention has always sucked, which was a reason 3.0 was launched in the first place), but because more players were parked in D2 and D3. They were parked, because D1 was bad.”

I do agree D1 sucked, the top schools could suck up anyone they wanted just smothering the mid majors. Im not saying 2.0 was better than 3.0. Maybe we should have had a 2.5?