According to that list, here's the top 25 by NC's.

Team	NC
Penn State	160
USC	116
Texas	96
Notre Dame	72
Oklahoma	69
Miami (Florida)	67
LSU	61
Alabama	51
Boston College	47
Ohio State	44
Tennessee	38
Rutgers	31
Connecticut	29
Florida State	27
Florida	26
Michigan	25
Nebraska	25
Syracuse	20
California	19
Georgia	18
Texas A&M	15
UCLA	14
Washington	9
Minnesota	7
Arizona	7

And by winning %

Team	W-L Pct
USC	0.815
Penn State	0.812
Texas	0.801
LSU	0.783
Miami (Florida)	0.782
Oklahoma	0.781
Alabama	0.772
Notre Dame	0.764
Boston College	0.755
Ohio State	0.749
Nebraska	0.744
Michigan	0.742
Tennessee	0.741
Florida	0.738
Florida State	0.736
California	0.708
UCLA	0.686
Army	0.686
Connecticut	0.681
Navy	0.681
Rutgers	0.676
Syracuse	0.651
Washington	0.631
Georgia	0.607
Texas A&M	0.607

So, a couple of notes here. Just my thoughts...anyone else can and should chime in.

• Penn State and USC actually appear to be a good distance ahead of Texas
• Boston College is essentially an elite program, even if they aren't classified as such.
• Florida and Florida State are the worst elites
• California and Washington are surprisingly good jobs.
• Arizona came as a surprise to me on the NC list. However, that school also has a losing w/l %. So, it would seem that a very successful coach or two have dominated in one world and inflated the NC number
• Army & Navy both appear in the W/L list. However, both schools are in the Sun Belt conference. Considering the conference competition, I wouldn't label either of these schools as "great" programs. Although, they certainly are above average jobs...especially for a mid-major.
• Both Georgia and Texas A&M (schools mentioned above) scored very well.

Georgia only 2 titles shy of Syracuse, one of the all-time most popular jobs, because of one coach's run. Not exactly dealing with the law of large numbers here. Scrolling through all the current Penn St teams, I see two dominant programs and not much else. One of those two is mcbethbr who also built the aforementioned Georgia team. It's almost like the coach is the dominant factor and not the school.

I'm surprised Temple is not on either of those lists, cjs.

Posted by bjschumacher on 4/25/2017 10:09:00 PM (view original):
I'm surprised Temple is not on either of those lists, cjs.

People don't race to take over temple in a new world. No coach or recently simai in most worlds.

Posted by bjschumacher on 4/25/2017 10:09:00 PM (view original):
I'm surprised Temple is not on either of those lists, cjs.

It's at 32nd in W/L % and has 5 NC's.

Where do you think Temple would rank on these lists if it had the same coaching history as Penn State?

What if awags took over Temple in year 7 of Yost instead of Penn State?

Posted by ebel331 on 4/25/2017 10:19:00 PM (view original):
What if awags took over Temple in year 7 of Yost instead of Penn State?

That's funny. I lost to plague's Temple team in what should have been a several season run of titles.

Pittsburgh was mentioned a few times, although they aren't listed anywhere in top 25 of winning % or NC. My first bcs team and I feel like a pinata between Penn State and OSU

My guess having coached at USC for 50 seasons in Leahy: The reason USC has so many titles is not because the talent is better or anything like that, but because it wins the CC such a high % of the time (and then makes the title games high % of the time). If you swapped USC and Michigan, the # of NCs would be swapped as well.

z32 is dead on- it's a quirk of the GD structure that doesn't fit into real world well at all. USC clearly is the easiest elite. It's the only elite in the conference, not another elite within 1,000 miles and few coaches foolish enough to take on the job at UCLA, so pretty much the entire west coast is a lock for the best recruits.

Posted by cjsweat on 4/25/2017 9:27:00 PM (view original):
According to that list, here's the top 25 by NC's.

Team	NC
Penn State	160
USC	116
Texas	96
Notre Dame	72
Oklahoma	69
Miami (Florida)	67
LSU	61
Alabama	51
Boston College	47
Ohio State	44
Tennessee	38
Rutgers	31
Connecticut	29
Florida State	27
Florida	26
Michigan	25
Nebraska	25
Syracuse	20
California	19
Georgia	18
Texas A&M	15
UCLA	14
Washington	9
Minnesota	7
Arizona	7

And by winning %

Team	W-L Pct
USC	0.815
Penn State	0.812
Texas	0.801
LSU	0.783
Miami (Florida)	0.782
Oklahoma	0.781
Alabama	0.772
Notre Dame	0.764
Boston College	0.755
Ohio State	0.749
Nebraska	0.744
Michigan	0.742
Tennessee	0.741
Florida	0.738
Florida State	0.736
California	0.708
UCLA	0.686
Army	0.686
Connecticut	0.681
Navy	0.681
Rutgers	0.676
Syracuse	0.651
Washington	0.631
Georgia	0.607
Texas A&M	0.607

I'm really surprised Temple isn't on either list. After the elites, I consider B.C., Rutgers, and Temple to be the 3 next best. With Rutgers and Temple, however, it does matter somewhat if both teams are human coached or not.

I think everyone considers Penn State, USC, and Texas to be the top 3. After that, I think the rest of the elites are pretty close. I think with all of those, it's just a matter of learning the territory. I've been very happy coaching Tennessee in Stagg. It's where I've won my only two NC's, and the competition and comraderie in that conference is the best I've been around.