Posted by slashtc on 6/9/2017 6:43:00 PM (view original):
I'm not wrong, but you're too ego-maniacal to ever admit it. Odds are if you're rebuilding at that point (which you would be in my example), that guy is gone before he's through Arb anyway and you just helped someone else out.
whoa whoa whoa. Ok, let's just hang on a second ok? So you used the specific wording "if your window of being competitive is closing". When you say this I assume you mean at the END of a season as opposed to at the beginning, it sounds like you're saying your team is in imminent decline. Honestly that's the spirit of the OP, he's asking if he should call a guy up for 13 games at the END of the season. "Odds are you're rebuilding at that point" aka immediately after rollover, if you're in imminent decline where this is even a talking point???
You do realize that you can call a guy up for 13 cycles at the end of the season, and then put him back in the minors to begin next season if he has 1 minor league option, right?
Player Profile: Paco Trevino. Spent 10 cycles in the majors in his age 19 season, spent half a season in minors in his age 20 season. Service time is an aggregate value, not a consecutive value. Next season you just wait 38 cycles instead of 25. Mike himself said this with the 2nd/3rd post of this thread. If season 1 is "playoff run" and season 2 is "rebuilding", sure borrow the service time from season 2 and apply it to season 1. You're still saving the arb season. It's the same ALWAYS concept just a modified version.
ALWAYS DELAY ARBITRATION BECAUSE IT SAVES YOU MONEY.
Additionally, if you trade for a guy that the previous owner started in majors in game 1, if the player has 1 minor league option you can choose assign him to the minors in the MIDDLE of the season for 25 cycles and it still delays arbitration--
Player Profile: Nick Holmes.
If you think I'm saying "ALWAYS WAIT 25 GAMES AT THE BEGINNING" then you are completely misunderstanding the concept and you are completely misunderstanding what I'm saying. I am instructing you to
ALWAYS DELAY ARBITRATION BECAUSE IT ALWAYS SAVES YOU MONEY. However the hell you need to do that is your choice, figure it out for yourself. Beginning, end, middle, whatever. Most often it's at the beginning. If it's at the end, plan on investing extra time at the beginning next season (contending or rebuilding).
for you tl;dr folks-- Regardless of WHEN the 25 cycles occur, it's always correct to delay arbitration
6/9/2017 7:07 PM (edited)