Posted by zorzii on 5/17/2017 11:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 5/17/2017 10:53:00 AM (view original):
I battle (at any level) if:

I think I have a reasonable chance of winning (or getting to VH now).
I don't have another option that is close to as good.

Trouble with D3 is that you are in fights everywhere unless you pick last and just go for players nobody wants.

This isn't true.

Posted by zorzii on 5/17/2017 11:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 5/17/2017 10:53:00 AM (view original):
I battle (at any level) if:

I think I have a reasonable chance of winning (or getting to VH now).
I don't have another option that is close to as good.

Trouble with D3 is that you are in fights everywhere unless you pick last and just go for players nobody wants.

What players are you trying to grab at D3 (D2? D1?) and what location school?

Quote post by MikeT23 on 5/11/2017 2:39:00 PM:

I picked first. The others showed up late. TSA only on the deciding cycle. I have others, mostly just SIMAI showing up late and getting beat back but I seldom sign "players nobody wants" or pick last.

I definitely try to draw a line and understand who I can and cannot go for. As much as I would like a top 5 player at his position is isn't reasonable for my lowly C+ TCU to go for it. Unless something is blatantly wrong with the recruit I cant go for that caliber yet.

I think especially at D1 understanding your scope and who / when to battle is key. I have yet to lose a battle in 3.0 and have competed in a few. The closest was a coin flip at 54-46%. Many coaches settle too much as they don't know how to win a battle or foster a backup option. I do however also feel im one of the few coaches in D1 that like to fill to 11-12 player consistently redshirting a player every season. I will pull a guy that will need 2-3 seasons of development but will be starter material his JR year with a redshirt. If he doesn't develop I'll just pull a 600+ guy that will take his place.

I am in Baltimore, Maryland.

I had a long list and am dropping names as I go along, I am down to six (six schollies). Contested everywhere.

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/17/2017 12:32:00 PM (view original):
Quote post by MikeT23 on 5/11/2017 2:39:00 PM:

Posted by Benis on 5/11/2017 2:33:00 PM (view original):
Even D3 teams can beat D1 teams now.

WOO-HOO!!!!

Team	Coach	Division	Prestige	Int Level	Scholarship Offer?	Odds
Texas, San Antonio	twencoach	DI	B-	Very High	Yes	66%
W. Connecticut St.	MikeT23	DIII	B	High	Yes	34%
CSU, Dominguez Hills	phalla	DII	A+	Very Low	No	0%
Oklahoma State	awhoosier	DI	A-	Very Low	No	0%

I picked first. The others showed up late. TSA only on the deciding cycle. I have others, mostly just SIMAI showing up late and getting beat back but I seldom sign "players nobody wants" or pick last.

How is that possible if you picked up first!? Recruiting just started off in Knight and as far as I see when going after DI recruits, DI schools are marked "VH", or"H" while all the D2 or D3 schools are marked "Moderate" or lower. Take a look at this, all the lower level schools gave up (as they should).

Team	Coach	Division	Prestige	Int Level	Scholarship Offer?
Milwaukee	Sim AI	DI	D	Very High	Yes
Siena	zhawks	DI	D-	Moderate	Yes
Alma	bofreedom	DIII	B+	Very Low	No
Bemidji St.	majresorter	DII	A-	Very Low	No
Macalester	zagsrulez	DIII	C+	Very Low	No
Minnesota St., Mankato	giveupyet	DII	A-	Very Low	No
Missouri State	Sim AI	DI	D	Very Low	No
Missouri, St. Louis	toddsamples1	DII	A-	Very Low	No
Tennessee State	Sim AI	DI	D	Very Low	No

I was the first school on him. OSU came in a couple of cycles later. He obviously wasn't serious or he could have easily taken the guy. T, SA and CSU showed up on the last cycle.

Oh my bad, I read your chart wrong. I thought you were the DI coach. Correct me if I am wrong but the only way a DIII could possibly l win in a battle vs a DI backup player is if they go in early with a lot of AP as well as willing to give starts and minutes.

I didn't give starts or minutes. I think I gave over 200 AP and 3 HV. The D1 that offered wasn't listed until the decision cycle. My guess is just offered a schollie when it opened up to all D1 on last cycle.

I beat many D1 teams on a three stars players at D2 but he does not have much upside. Key to my win : all-in, massive ap, good preferences but most of all, a late preference that became a first cycle, 2nd session, signing. I would not have been able to hold on and won on a vh:73 % to a H 27%.