You have the 6th pick. One of these players has to fall to you. Scouting is maxed in High School and College.

How would you rank these five?

18 Y/O LHP
30 DUR / 85 HEALTH / 2 Speed / 63 Pat / 27 Temper / 65 Make Up
80 Stam / 96 Con / 96 vL / 68 vR / 54 Velo / 85 GB / Pitches: 85/62/53/32/33

22 Y/O RHP
32 DUR / 86 Health / 54 Speed / 100 Pat / 39 Temper / 96 Make Up
76 Stam / 80 Con / 71 vL / 76 vR / 35 Velo / 88 GB / Pitches: 90/68/67/67/39

18 Y/O RHB "2B"
80 Range / 79 Glove / 56 ArmS / 68 AA / 79 Dur / 84 Health / 81 Speed / 66 Patience / 46 Temper / 76 Make Up
81 Con / 68 Pwr / 87 vL and vR / 64 Eye / 94 BSR / 70 Bunt / 74 Push - Pull

20 Y/O RHB SS
85 Range / 90 Glove / 80 ArmS / 85 AA / 88 Dur / 74 Health / 86 Speed / 75 Patience / 88 Temper / 96 Make Up
56 Con / 66 Pwr / 80 vL / 65 vR / 68 Eye / 77 BSR / 56 Bunt / 28 Push-Pull

21 Y/O RHB C
15 Range / 25 Glove / 82 ArmS / 80 AA / 78 PC / 98 Dur / 74 Health / 31 speed / 55 Patience / 22 Temper / 75 Make Up
69 Con / 67 Pwr / 91 vL / 81 vR / 68 Eye / 71 BSR / 14 Bunt / 40 Push-Pull

22 year old Pitcher
18 year old 2B
18 year old pitcher
the SS
the C

I'd draft whatever guy that will not sign.. If those are your options you'd be better off waiting for next season.. I'd rank them in order 3, 2, 4, 1, 5


#3 is solid but is a LF/1B
#2 is decent. above average control and splits, 1 excellent pitch 3 serviceable pitches. He would probably be 250IP of 4 ERA
#4 is good but not worth the 6th pick
#1 weak vsR and pitches are not high enough to offset it.
#5 Not explosive enough as a C for the 6th pick

Posted by hockey1984 on 6/14/2017 4:09:00 PM (view original):
22 year old Pitcher
18 year old 2B
18 year old pitcher
the SS
the C

No surprise, I agree... we have similar teams and similar styles, and we've signed each other's free agents.

Now, the SS and the C... yeah I have a little of a hard time getting that excited about them. Solid, but nothing spectacular. I'd bet the SS doesn't get any better than 3B and he won't hit like a 3B. And the C lacks pop. I could see it if you're really hurting at the C position, but I'd like a bit more bat for the 6th overall.

I'd really be hoping that RHP falls to me somehow. At the 6, it's not out of the question.

Posted by damag on 6/14/2017 4:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hockey1984 on 6/14/2017 4:09:00 PM (view original):
22 year old Pitcher
18 year old 2B
18 year old pitcher
the SS
the C

No surprise, I agree... we have similar teams and similar styles, and we've signed each other's free agents.

Now, the SS and the C... yeah I have a little of a hard time getting that excited about them. Solid, but nothing spectacular. I'd bet the SS doesn't get any better than 3B and he won't hit like a 3B. And the C lacks pop. I could see it if you're really hurting at the C position, but I'd like a bit more bat for the 6th overall.

I'd really be hoping that RHP falls to me somehow. At the 6, it's not out of the question.

I'm shocked how good Blankenship has been this year.

Usually as well, you usually see less of a ratings drop with a 22 year old....... i think wis mentioned something about that. Plus also the ratings don't look that rediculous. Think you are getting what you pay for on that one.

I like the Catcher a lot. Maybe not #1 option but I had him 2 I think. It's just so hard to find a C who is that good defensively and can hit. And with his Durability he can play everyday, I just have rarely seen a Catcher in my limited experience that is a true dual threat.

22yo pitcher
18yo 2b
The catcher

Thanks, guys! Maybe I thought a little too much of the 18 y/o LHP.

1) Disagree with Will, mostly because I have a lower opinion of the value of the 6th pick than he does. I think the best 3 of these are on a par with a typical 6th pick.
2) I'd take the 2B first, narrowly, unless you never run at all. after that I'd rate the SPs about equally, even taking 10-12 points off the younger pitcher's VsL because it's very rare to see pitcher splits that different. I think the control difference makes up for both the modest difference in splits and the obvious differences in P3-5-- pitches 3-5 are overrated, imo.
3) I think the C and the SS are a little worse, in that order, than the pitchers and the 2B. A 98 DUR C is a rare beast, though; he wouldn't have to have more than just a few more points in power and eye before he'd rise to or near the top of these.

Posted by Knudervalve on 6/15/2017 4:28:00 PM (view original):
Thanks, guys! Maybe I thought a little too much of the 18 y/o LHP.

I've found a lot of 'buyer beware' with 18 year olds with the new fuzzy ratings. I wouldn't roll the dice at the 6th pick when there are other viable options.

Posted by dedelman on 6/15/2017 7:47:00 PM (view original):
1) Disagree with Will, mostly because I have a lower opinion of the value of the 6th pick than he does. I think the best 3 of these are on a par with a typical 6th pick.
2) I'd take the 2B first, narrowly, unless you never run at all. after that I'd rate the SPs about equally, even taking 10-12 points off the younger pitcher's VsL because it's very rare to see pitcher splits that different. I think the control difference makes up for both the modest difference in splits and the obvious differences in P3-5-- pitches 3-5 are overrated, imo.
3) I think the C and the SS are a little worse, in that order, than the pitchers and the 2B. A 98 DUR C is a rare beast, though; he wouldn't have to have more than just a few more points in power and eye before he'd rise to or near the top of these.

With new 'fuzziness' and max scouting especially maxed in both. You can easily get the #1-2 guy in the draft with the 6th pick. Often a few of the top picks are for teams with bad owners or new owners with lower scouting.

@willsauve-- I'm intrigued by this. Can you show me some examples?

Posted by dedelman on 6/16/2017 11:22:00 AM (view original):
@willsauve-- I'm intrigued by this. Can you show me some examples?

I got Dummy Lueke at the #6 pick. All five owners ahead of me took College players. I had $20 mil HS/$0 College scouting; Lueke was far and away the best hitting prospect I saw in the draft, #1 on my board.

Go ahead and look at past drafts. I'm sure you will find some examples of drafts where the top guys are taken 1,2,3,4,5,6... But I'm very confident that you will find more instances where there are big misses in the early picks..

8th pick

13th

8th pick

Posted by damag on 6/16/2017 11:40:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dedelman on 6/16/2017 11:22:00 AM (view original):
@willsauve-- I'm intrigued by this. Can you show me some examples?

I got Dummy Lueke at the #6 pick. All five owners ahead of me took College players. I had $20 mil HS/$0 College scouting; Lueke was far and away the best hitting prospect I saw in the draft, #1 on my board.

I tend to use this strategy.. 16-20 in one and 0 in the other.. I set up my draft board to take the top 5 or so guys I like, then move up unsignable guys after that so I can punt for this next season.. Even when drafting in the 20's and 30's I often get my top 5 guy at some point either the current season or the next season with a TYPE-D pick.