FULL - Thank-You all owners. Topic

_That's right! We are going to start out with ( 30 ) competitive teams.
Go through 8 Seasons - ELIMINATING TEAMS as we go and end with ( 12 ) in Season 8
Are you able to manage and get just ( 1 ) win during ( 7 ) seasons to get to the
EIGHTH WONDER OF SIM WORLD - SEASON 8

JOIN and find out THM56425.
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AS AN INCENTIVE to attract more owners:

I am going to offer rewards for:
THE LOSER of each Season.

-YES! We offer participation Awards
# OWNERS
-------FOUNDER FEE
----------------25% of FOUNDER FEE
WIS allows owners to TRANSFER CREDITS:
SO, At the end of each season I will transfer CREDITS
to the ( 8 ) LOSERS
AS A PARTICIPATION AWARD!

-------------LOSER - WORST W/L Record
--------------$ Payout
Season 1 - $ 2.50
Season 2 - $ 2.50
Season 3 - $ 2.50
Season 4 - $ 2.50
Season 5 - $ 2.50
Season 6 - $ 2.50
Season 7 - $ 2.50
Season 8 ----------- $ 5.00
25% Total----------$ 22.50 over 8 seasons
LOSER = WORST W/L Record of Season
TIE BREAKERS:
Team with WORST ERA
Team with WORST Batting AVG.
Team with WORST OBP%
Team with WORST Inherited Runs Scored

Payout Rewards for each season are:

Teams = Rewards

Season 1
30 = WS Champion - 5000 points
.........WS runner-up - $ 12.50
.........LCS Loser - $ 7.50
.........DCS Loser - $ 3.75
........W/L LOSER - $ 2.50

Season 2
28 = WS Champion - 4650 points
.........WS runner-up - $ 11.75
.........LCS Loser - $ 7.00
.........DCS Loser - $ 3.50
.........W/L LOSER - $ 2.50

Season 3
26 = WS Champion - 5600 points
.........WS runner-up - $ 14.00
.........LCS Loser - $ 7.00
.........W/L LOSER - $ 2.50

Season 4
24 = WS Champion - 4000 points
.........WS runner-up - $ 10.00
.........LCS Loser - $ 6.00
.........DCS Loser - $ 3.00
.........W/L LOSER - $ 2.50

Season 5
20 = WS Champion - 5500 points
.........WS runner-up - $ 8.75
.........LCS Loser - $ 5.00
.........W/L LOSER - $ 2.50

Season 6
18 = WS Champion - 5000 points
.........WS runner-up - $ 12.50
.........W/L LOSER - $ 2.50

Season 7
16 = WS Champion - 3500 points
.........WS runner-up - $ 8.50
.........LCS Loser - $ 4.50
.........W/L LOSER - $ 2.50

Season 8
12 = WS Winner 3300 Points
.........WS Runner-Up $ 8.25
.........W/L LOSER - $ 5.00

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Real short version - Then if interested the FULL DETAILS + INFO ARE BELOW!

( 30 ) OWNERS will pick a sub .500 of "any season" team. ( this will be done by Owner MLB Ratings)
****************Worst Owner MLB Rating picks a SUB .500 team first. As of now that is randy_114b -16869

The first owner picks ( EXAMPLE '62 NY METS ) with ( 25 ) players - ORIGINAL TEAM Roster.
***************Using Min games at all / 0 AB / Include Secondary Positions MOST - will have (25) on the roster.
***************+ for { Season 1 " ONLY " } AB & IP holes may be filled with 60/20 WAY BELOW AVG. AAA

This is a NO CLONE LEAGUE, Therefore, Owner # 1's SUB .500 Team Roster is his EXCLUSIVELY
************************** ( NO OTHER team may use ANY PLAYER from the ' 62 NY Mets )

Owner # 2 may retain all his roster " IF " none of his roster is on Owner # 1's team roster.
and so on, for ( 30 ) teams.

Owners will be able to IMPROVE their ORIGINAL ROSTERS
**********EACH SEASON by way of ( 1 ) Twist and ( 1 ) Drafted player per season.
**********Owners will "CUT" ( 1 ) player from ORIGINAL ROSTER to make room for Draft Pick.
**********ELIMINATED TEAM ROSTERS will be added to the DRAFT POOL - EACH SEASON
**********EACH SEASON DRAFT ORDER is calculated BY: Salary - Lowest drafts 1st.
**********EACH SEASON there will be ( 1 ) DRAFT ROUND.
****************************************( otherwise players remain exactly as drafted in Season 1)

Win ANY WORLD SERIES in Seasons 1 to 7 and Your LOCKED IN FOR SEASON 8
SEASON 8 will consist of: ( 12 Team League )
LOCKED IN for a spot are:
*****************************Seasons # 1 thru # 7 World Series Champs ( 7 teams )
****************and / or Seasons # 2 - # 7 World Series runner-up - "IF" Champ is in already
****************and / or Seasons # 3 - # 7 Best playoff W/L record "IF" Champ & runner-up in already
and the FINAL 5 will be :
from Season 7
Season 7 World Series runner-up ( team # 8 )
Season 7 ( 4 ) BEST W/L records ( teams # 9 - # 10 - # 11 & # 12 )
That's TOP ( 4 ) W/L records. NOT ( 2 ) NL & ( 2 ) AL
TIE BREAKERS:
W/L record tie breaker is:
Best Season 7 Team ERA
then
Best Season 7 Team AVG.
then
Best Season 7 Team OB%
then
Lowest Season 7 IRS

Sound Interesting? Then please read on and keep in mind what player you love.
**********and what SUB .500 for a season team was he on.
**********Think of Twisting him to the BEST SEASON OF his career between Season 1 and Season 2
**********Twisting ( 6 ) other players on your roster, and drafting ( 7 ) players from the DRAFT POOL (at their best)
**********Remember: You ELIMINATE the SUB .500 team with Babe Ruth '35 on it, and he goes back to the DRAFT POOL !
**********The DRAFT ROUND is " ANY " PLAYER - " ANY " SEASON - " ANY " TEAM
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LEAGUE # is 56425
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>{ I hope one of these choices makes it easier to pick your franchise }<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>**********AT BOTTOM**********<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
IF YOU HAVE A FAVORITE FRANCHISE - HERE IS THE LIST OF FRANCHISES AND THE YEARS THEY WERE
SUB .500
ALSO: THE HISTORY OF FRANCHISE NAMES OLD NAMES / FRANCHISE THAT BOUGHT THEM
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Coming soon will be / Beside the Franchise and years list
will be:
A Favorite player - " WITH " - team they were on that was: SUB .500

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Retiredfart will start as founder
" IF " eliminated A World Series Champ AND/OR an owner that has LOCKED UP
a spot in SEASON 8 will take over.
OR
A volunteer until such time as a WS Champ can take over

Win ANY WORLD SERIES in Seasons 1 to 7 and Your LOCKED IN FOR SEASON 8
SEASON 8 will consist of: ( 12 Team League )
LOCKED IN for a spot are:
*****************************Seasons # 1 thru # 7 World Series Champs ( 7 teams )
****************and / or Seasons # 2 - # 7 World Series runner-up - "IF" Champ is in already
****************and / or Seasons # 3 - # 7 Best playoff W/L record "IF" Champ & runner-up in already
and the FINAL 5 will be :
from Season 7
Season 7 World Series runner-up ( team # 8 )
Season 7 ( 4 ) BEST W/L records ( teams # 9 - # 10 - # 11 & # 12 )
That's TOP ( 4 ) W/L records. NOT ( 2 ) NL & ( 2 ) AL

ELIMINATIONS:.........ELIMINATED TEAMS ROSTERS Will be re-stocking the DRAFT POOL
SEASON - OWNERS ELIMINATED
1 - ( 30 Team League ) 2 Owners Eliminated
2 - ( 28 Team League ) 2 Owners Eliminated
3 - ( 26 Team League ) 2 Owners Eliminated
4 - ( 24 Team League ) 4 Owners Eliminated
5 - ( 20 Team League ) 2 Owners Eliminated
6 - ( 18 Team League ) 2 Owners Eliminated
7 - ( 16 Team League ) 4 Owners Eliminated

W/L record tie breaker is:
Best Season 7 Team ERA
then
Best Season 7 Team AVG.
then
Best Season 7 Team OB%
then
Lowest Season 7 IRS.

For an Elimination League
ALL Formats will have 162 games
ALL Formats will have a balanced schedule

This league will consist of ( 8 ) Seasons
NO AAA (Except Season 1 - 60/20 - Way Below Average )
Players available - ALL ( NO SALARY CAP )
NO CLONES
OWNERS MAY HAVE ( 1 ) TEAM in each league

SEASON 1 will be a:
DRAFT of SUB .500 Teams
BY: Owner Ratings. Worst first
Ballparks: Will be the ballpark your team played in the season you pick.
................If ballpark does not exist. Owner may pick any ballpark available at end of draft.
DH: Both Leagues
TRADES: ( 6 ) Vetoes to stop trade

Choice of Sub .500 teams.......................................... ( as we did for Best Damn Manager League)
********************************** List started below***************************************************
for a base team to start with in season 1 ( No draft - only the 25 players on the original team)
+ 60/20 Way below average AAA

The players in Season 1 will remain as they are: UNLESS Twisted or drafted differently
During the Season 1 to Season 2 - Draft / Twist rounds

Owners MAY - EACH SEASON ( 2 - 8 )
Twist ( 1 ) player from their roster
Draft ( 1 ) player - One of their own - BUT for a different season ( Theoretically a twist )
..........OR - ANY PLAYER - ANY SEASON - ( That is NOT on a roster with a different owner )
Cut ( 1 ) PLAYER from his roster to make room for the Drafted player
..........OR - NO CUT if Drafting a player already on his roster from a different season
Draft Pool will be re-stocked each season with the players from the teams eliminated
Draft will be done by SALARY - SNAKE )
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Format...Season...Teams / Playoffs...NL......AL......Eliminations

1998-2000...( 1 )....30 / 8....................16.......14......Worst NL and AL teams
.................................................................................2nd worst NL Team will be placed in the division
..................and " YES ! " ( even if the same owner already has a team in that league and/or division )
>>> This can be either an advantage or dis-advantage - pending the outcome.
>>> Both may be eliminated OR Both may move on to playoffs
.................................................................................where the worst AL team vacated
World Series Champ can not be eliminated.

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1997............( 2 ).....28 / 8.....................14......14.....Worst NL and AL teams
.................................................................................2nd worst NL Team will be placed in the division
.................................................................................and " YES ! " ( same owner )
.................................................................................where the worst AL team vacated
World Series Champ can not be eliminated.
***IF World Series Champ - Is same team from previous season - then World Series Runner-up
Acquires the Season 2 non-elimination spot.

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1977 - 1982.( 3 ).....26 / 4.....................12......14.....Worst NL and AL teams
..................................................................................2nd worst AL team will be placed in the division
..................................................................................and " YES ! " ( same owner )
.................................................................................where the worst NL team vacated
World Series Champ can not be eliminated.
***IF World Series Champ and runner-up have both acquired
NON-Elimination status - Then Best playoff record of the other ( 2 ) teams in playoffs moves on.

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Standard WIS ( 4 )...24 / 8....................12......12.....The ( 2 ) worst NL and AL teams of: EACH LEAGUE
World Series Champ can not be eliminated.
***IF Champ and runner-up of the World Series
and one of the final ( 4 ) in the playoffs all have elimination status
Then the 4th team of the final ( 4 ) moves on.

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Alternate F ( 5 )......20 / 4....................10......10.....Worst NL and AL teams
.................................................................................2nd worst NL team will be placed in the division
.................................................................................and " YES ! " ( same owner )
.................................................................................where the worst AL team vacated
World Series Champ can not be eliminated.
IF all 4 teams in the playoffs have elimination status
Then - The team with the best REGULAR Season record will move on.

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1961.............( 6 )......18 / 2.....................8........10....Worst NL and AL teams
.................................................................................2nd worst AL team will be placed in the division
.................................................................................and " YES ! " ( same owner )
.................................................................................where the worst NL Team vacated
World Series Champ can not be eliminated.
A 6th team will move on

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Alternate E....( 7 )......16 / 4.....................8.........8.....( 2 ) Worst NL and AL teams
World Series Champ can not be eliminated.
A 7th team will move on.

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Alternate D....( 8 )......12 / 2.....................6.........6.....Final Season.
The Previous ( 7 ) World Series Champs + ( 5 ) well - deserved owners.

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WORST TEAMS WILL BE ELIMINATED
Worst Win / Loss record @ game 162
Tie - Worst Team ERA on team rankings -Worst Pitching staff
2nd Tie - Team with worst Batting average on team rankings - Worst Offensive team
3rd tie - Team with most Inherited Runs Scored - Worst Bullpen

ELIMINATED TEAMS ROSTERS
ALL rosters from eliminated teams
will be available in the LIVE DRAFT TOOL
All players will be available in the draft - Any salary - Any season - Any position

DRAFTS
Season 1
Draft order by MLB Ranking
Owners will draft a SUB .500 team
( 1 ) Franchise per Owner - Any SUB >500 Season
List being started in this forum

Seasons 2 - 8
Players from previous seasons will move on with the same owner
UNLESS - The player is " CUT " previous to the LIVE DRAFT of EACH SEASON.
Draft order by SALARY
Minimum salary picks first
Maximum salary picks last
EACH OWNER - May " CUT " ( 1 ) player
PRIOR to the start of the draft
All players " NOT CUT " will be { DOWNLOADED} into the LIVE DRAFT TOOL

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THIS IS YOUR SEASON 1 DRAFT PICK!
ANY one of these teams, with ( 25 ) of the players that were on the team that year
and for Season 1 you will use them EXACTLY -How they are on the team you pick.
There will be only ( 1 ) Franchise in the AL or NL per owner - Some teams played in BOTH leagues
and some teams had various names - Such as Miami Marlins and Florida Marlins each will be considered a different franchise
An AL franchise - MAY ALSO be used if franchise played in the NL -
Such as Philadelphia Athletics - AL & Philadelphia Phillies NL
NO CLONE teams

SUB .500 TEAMS LIST

NOTE*** NO CLONES***
" IF " a player { IS ALREADY ON A TEAM SELECTED } PRIOR to your turn in the draft!
THEN -
That player will " NOT BE AVAILABLE " on ANY SUBSEQUENT SUB .500 Teams

UPDATE Elimination League

OWNERS IN: MLB Rating draft order - SUB .500 DRAFT PICK

Owners entered into the PRIVATE FORUM

1 ) Randy - ( - 16915 )
2) reddtrain ( - 11319 )
3) cleonjones ( -11264 )
4) dspahlinger ( -5338 )
5) Mundocani ( -3351 )
6) 1Zeppieri! ( - 255 )
7) northof49 + 1373
8) Bajagal + 1515
9 ) Gonzo + 1536
10) Idoru + 2151
11 ) jkauffman + 2740
12) Ohmorrison + 4950
13) Retiredfart + 9453
14) eman7400 + 31892
15) JFranco77 + 150027
............" IF : owner takes a 2nd team
.............2nd Team will go by snake draft
16)
17)
18)
19)
20) Retiredfart
21) Ohmorrison
22) Idoru
23) Gonzo
24) Bajagal
25) Northof49
26) 1Zeppieri1
27) dspahlinger
28) cleonjones
29) reddtrain
30) Randy

( 26 IN Need ( 4 )

Year..........Teams Sub .500 season >>>>>>>>>>>>BELOW is list of Franchises and years they were SUB .500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from 1876 to 1940 ( only missing 34 years) will complete ASAP
2017...........N/A This list is from 2017 to 1892
2016...........AL - Tampa - CWS - Twins - LAA - A'S
...................NL - Miami - Phils - ATL - Oitt - Brew - Reds - COL - ARZ - SD
2015...........AL - Tampa - Bosox - CWS - DET - SEA - A'S
...................NL - Miami - ATL - Phils - Brew - Reds - ARZ - SD - COL
2014...........AL - Tampa - Bosox - CWS - Twins - Astros - Texas
...................NL - ATL - NYM - Miami - Phils - Reds - Cubs - SD - COL - ARZ
2013...........AL - TOR - Twins - CWS - LAA - SEA - Astros
...................NL - NYM - Phils - Miami - Brew - Cubs - SD - SF - COL
2012...........AL - TOR - BOSOX - KC Royals - Cle Indians - Twins - SEA
...................NL - NYM - Miami - Pirates - Cubs - Astros - SD - COL
2011...........AL - Balt O'S - Indians - CWS - KC - Twins - A'S - SEA
...................NL - Nationals - NYM - Marlins - Reds - Pirates - Cubs - Astros - COL - SD
2010...........AL - Balt O'S - Indians - KC - LAA - SEA
...................NL - Marlins - NYM - Nationals - Brewers - Astros - Cubs - Pirates - LA Dodgers - ARZ
2009...........AL - TOR - Balt O'S - CWS - Indans - KC - A'S
...................NL - NYM - Nationals - Brewers - Reds - Astros - Pirates - SD - ARZ
2008...........AL - Balt O's - KC - Det Tigers - Rangers - A's - SEA
...................NL - ATL - Nationals - Reds - Pirates - COL - SF - SD
2007...........AL - Balt O's - Tampa Bay - Twins - CWS - KC - A'S - Rangers
...................NL - Nationals - Marlins - STL Cards - Astros - Reds - Pirates - SF
2006..........AL - Balt O's - Tampa - Indians - KC - Rangers - SEA
..................NL - ATL - Marlins - Nationals - Reds - Brewers - Pirates - Cubs - SF - ARZ - COL
2005..........AL - TOR - Balt O'S - Tampa - Twins - DET - KC - Rangers - SEA
..................NL - Cubs - Reds - Pirates - ARZ - SF - LAD - COL
2004..........AL - Balt O'S - Tampa - TOR - Indians - DET - KC - SEA
..................NL - NYM - EXPOS - Reds - Pirates - Brewers - COL - ARZ
2003..........AL - Balt O'S - Tampa - Indians - DET - Angels - Rangers
..................NL - NYM - Pirates - Reds - Brewers - COL - SD
2002..........AL - TOR - Balt O's - Tampa - Indians - KC - DET - Rangers
.................NL - Marlins - NYM - Reds - Pirates - Cubs - Brewers - COL - SD
2001..........AL - TOR - Balt O'S - Tampa - DET - KC - Angels - Rangers
.................NL - Marlins - EXPOS - Brewers - Reds - Pirates - SD - COL
2000.........AL - Balt O'S - Tampa - DET - KC - Twins - Rangers
.................NL - Marlins - EXPOS - Phils - Brewers - Astros - Pirates - Cubs - SD
1999.........AL - O'S - Tampa - CWS - DET - KC - Twins - SEA - Angels
.................NL - Marlins - Phils - Expos - Pirates - STL - Brew - Cubs - LAD - SD - COL
1998.........AL - O'S - Tampa - DET - KC - Twins - SEA - A'S
.................NL - Marlins - Phils - Expos - Reds - Brew - Pirates - COL - ARZ
1997.........AL - DET - Red Sox - TOR - Brew - Twins - KC - Rangers - A'S
.................NL - Expos - Phils - Pirates - Reds - STL - Cubs - SD
1996.........AL - TOR - DET - Brew - Twins - KC - A'S - Angels
................NL - Marlins - NYM - Phils - Cubs - Pirates - SF
1995........AL - O'S - DET - TOR - KC - CWS - Brew - Twins - A'S
................NL - Marlins - NYM - Phils - Expos - STL - Pirates - SD - SF
1994........AL - TOR - Red Sox - DET - Twins - Brew - Rangers - A';S - SEA - Angels
...............NL - Marlins - NYM - Phils - STL - Pirates - Cubs - SF - COL - SD
1993........AL - Red Sox - Indians - Brew - Angels - Twins - A's
................NL - Marlins - Pirates - NYM - Reds - COL - SD
1992........AL - NYY - Indians - DET - Red Sox - Rangers - KC - Angels - SEA
...............NL - Cubs - NYM - Phils - SF - LAD
1991.......AL - NYY - O'S - Indians
...............NL - Phils - Cubs - NYM - Expos - SF - Reds - Astros
1990.......AL - DET - Indians - O'S - Brew - NYY - Angels - SEA - KC - Twins
...............NL - Phils - Cubs - STL - SD - Astros - ATL
1989.......AL - NYY - Indians - DET - Twins - SEA - CWS
...............NL - Pirates - Phils - LAD - Reds - ATL
1988.......AL - Indians - O'S - Angels - CWS - Rangers - SEA
...............NL - Cubs - STL - Phils - ATL
1987.......AL - Red Sox - O'S - Indians - SEA - CWS - Rangers - Angels
...............NL - Pirates - Phils - Cubs - Astros ATL - LAD - SD
1986.......AL - Brew - O'S - KC - A'S - CWS - Twins - SEA
...............NL - STL - Expos - Cubs - Pirates - SD - LAD - ATL
1985........AL - Brew - Indians - Twins SEA - A'S - Rangers
...............NL - Cubs - Phils - Pirates - ATL - SF
1984.......AL - Indians - Brew - A'S - SEA - CWS - Rangers
...............NL - Expos - Pirates - Astros - ATL - LAD - Reds - SF
1983.......AL - Red Sox - Indians - KC - Rangers - A'S - Angels - Twins - SEA
..............NL - STL - Cubs - NYM - SF - Reds
1982.......AL - NYY - TOR - Indians - SEA - A'S - Rangers - Twins
..............NL - Cubs - NYM - Astros - Reds
1981......AL - TOR - KC - Angels - SEA - Twins
..............NL - Pirates - NYM - Cubs - STL - SD
1980.......AL - Indians - TOR - Twins - Rangers - CWS - Angels - SEA
...............NL - STL - NYM - Cubs - SF - SD
1979.......AL - TOR - CWS - SEA - A'S
...............NL - Cubs - NYM - LAD - SF - SD - ATL
1978.......AL - Indians - TOR - Twins - CWS - A'S - SEA
...............NL - Cubs - Expos - STL - NYM - Astros - ATL
1977.......AL - DET - Indians - Brew - TOR - Angels - SEA - A'S
...............NL - Expos - NYM - SF - SD - ATL
1976.......AL - DET - Brew - Rangers - Angels - CWS
...............NL - Cubs - STL - Expos - Astros - SF - SD - ATL
1975......AL - Indians - Brew -= DET - Rangers - Twins - CWS - Angels
...............NL - Expos - Cubs - SF - SD - ATL - Astros
1974......AL - Indians - Brew -= DET - KC - Angels
...............NL - Pirates - Phils - Bos Braves - Reds
1973........AL - NYY - Brew - Indians - Angels - CWS - Rangers
...............NL - Pirates - Expos - Cubs - Phils - ATL - SD
1972.......AL - Brew - Indians - Angels - KC - Rangers
...............NL - STL - Expos - Phils - ATL - SD - SF
1971.......AL - Senators - Indians - CWS - Angels - Twins - Brew
..............NL -- Expos - Phils - Astros - Reds - SD
1970.......AL - DET - Indians - Senators - Brew - KC - CWS
...............NL - STL - Expos - Phils - Astros - ATL - SD
1969.......AL - NYY - Indians - KC ROYALS - CWS - Angels - Seattle Pilots
...............NL - Expos - Phils - SD
1968.......AL - Twins - CWS - Angels - Senators
...............NL - Pirates - Phils - LAD - NYM - Astros
1967.......AL - O'S - NYY - KC ATHLETICS - Indians - Senators
...............NL - ATL - LAD - NYM - Astros
1966........AL - Angels - KC - Senators - BOSOX - NYY
...............NL - Reds - Astros - NYM - Cubs
1965.......AL - Angels - KC - Senators - BOSOX - NYY
...............NL - STL - Cubs - Astros - NYM
1964.......AL - Twins - Indians - BOSOX - Senators - KC A's
...............NL - Pirates - LAD - Cubs - Houston Colt .45's - NYM
1963.......AL - Indians - BOSOX - Senators - KC A's - DET - LA Angels
...............NL - Houston Colt .45's - NYM - Pirates
1962.......AL -Indians - BOSOX - Senators - KC A's - O'S
...............NL - Houston Colt .45's - NYM - Cubs
1961.......AL - Indians - BOSOX - Senators - KC A's - Twins - LA Angels
..............NL - Pirates - Cubs - Phils
1960.......AL - Indians - BOSOX - Senators - KC A's - DET
...............NL - Cubs - Phils - Reds
1959......AL - DET - BOSOX - Senators - KC A's - O'S
...............NL - Cubs - Phils - Reds - STL
1958........AL - Senators - KC A's - O'S
...............NL - Cincinnati Redlegs - Cubs - Phils - LAD - STL
1957........AL - Senators - KC A's - Indians
................NL - NY Giants - Pirates - Cubs
1956........AL - Senators - KC A's - O'S
................NL - NY Giants - Pirates - Cubs - Phils - STL
1955.........AL - Senators - KC A's - O'S
.................NL - Cincinnati Redlegs - Cubs - Pirates - STL
1954.........AL - Philadelphia Athletics - BOSOX - DET - O'S - Senators
.................NL - Cincinnati Redlegs - Cubs - Pirates - STL - Phils
1953........AL - St. Louis Browns - Philadelphia Athletics - DET
................NL - Cincinnati Redlegs - Cubs - NY Giants - Pirates
1952.........AL - BOSOX - STL Browns - DET
................NL - Cincinnati Reds - Boston Braves - Pirates
1951........AL - DET - St. Louis Browns - Philadelphia Athletics - Senators
................NL - Cincinnati Reds - Boston Braves - Philadelphia Phillies - Pirates - Cubs
1950.......AL - St. Louis Browns - Philadelphia Athletics - Senators - CWS
................NL - Cubs - Pirates - Reds
1949........AL - St. Louis Browns - Senators - CWS
...............NL - Boston Braves - NY Giants - Reds - Cubs - Pirates
1948........AL - St. Louis Browns - Senators - CWS
...............NL - Cubs - Phils - Reds
1947.......AL - St. Louis Browns - Senators - CWS
................NL - Cubs - Phils - Reds - Pirates
1946........AL - St. Louis Browns - Senators - CWS - Philadelphia Athletics - Indians
................NL - NY Giants - Reds - Phils - Pirates
1945........AL - CWS - Philadelphia Athletics - BOSOX
................NL - Boston Braves - Reds - Phils
1944........AL - CWS - Philadelphia Athletics - Indians - Senators
................NL - NY Giants - Brooklyn Dodgers - Phils - Boston Braves - Cubs
1943........AL - St. Louis Browns - BOSOX- Philadelphia Athletics
................NL - Boston Braves - Cubs- Phils - NY Giants
1942........AL - Philadelphia Athletics - Indians - Senators - DET - CWS
................NL - Boston Braves - Cubs- Phils - Pirates
1941........AL -DET - Indians - Senators - St. Louis Browns - Philadelphia Athletics
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1900 to 1940 NL
Philadelphia Phillies 1883 - 1884 / 1889 / 1891 / 1896 - 1897 / 1902 - 1904 / 1906 / 1909 / 1912 /1914 / 1918 - 1931 / 1933 - 1940
NY Giants 1890 / 1892 / 1896 / 1899 - 1902
Pittsburgh Pirates 1891 -1892 / 1897 - 1898 / 1914 - 1917 / 1934 / 1939 /
Chicago Orphans 1900 - 1901
STL Cardinals 1900 / 1902 - 1910 / 1912 - 1913 / 1915 - 1916 / 1918 - 1920 / 1924 / 1932 / 1938 /
Cincinnatti Reds / Reds1900 - 1901
Cicago Cubs 1902 / 1915 - 1917 / 1920 - 1921 / 1925 / 1940
Boston Beaneaters / ATL 1903 - 1906
Brooklyn Superbas / Brklyn Dodgers 1904 - 1910
Cincinatti Reds '90-'52 / Cicinnatti Reds 1906 - 1908 / 1910 - 1916 / 1921 / 1927 / 1929 - 1937 /
Boston Doves / ATL 1907 - 1910
Boston Rustlers / ATL 1911
Brooklyn Dodgers / Robins '11-'13 1911 - 1913
Brooklyn Robins / Brooklyn Dodgers 1914 / 1917 - 1919 / 1922 - 1923 / 1925 - 1927 / 1929
Boston Braves '12-'35/ Boston Bees / ATL 1912 / 1917 - 1920 / 1922 - 1931 / 1935
Pittsburgh Pirates 1914 - 1917 / 1931 /
NY Giants 1915 / 1926 / 1932 / 1940
Brooklyn Dodgers / LA Dodgers 1933-1938 /
Boston Bees / Boston Braves/ATL 1936 / 1939 - 1940

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1900 to 1940 AL
Washington Senators / Twins ( 01 - '60 ) 1901 - 1911 / 1916- 1917 / 1919 - 1920 / 1922 - 1923 / 1928 - 1929 / 1934 - 1935 / 1937 - 1940
Cleveland Blues 1901
Milwaukee Brewers / O'S 1901
Baltimore O'S / NYY 1902
Detroit Tigers 1902 - 1904
STL Browns / O'S ( 02-'53) 1903 - 1907 / 1909 - 1915 / 1917 - 1920 / 1923 - 1924 / 1926 - 1927 / 1930 - 1941 /
Chicago White Stockings 1903
Cleveland Naps / Indians 1905 / 1909 - 1910 / 1912 / 1914
NY Highlanders / NYY 1905 / 1907 - 1909 / 1912
Philadelphia Athletics / Oakland A'S ( '54) 1906 / 1908 / 1915 - 1924 / 1934 - 1940
Detroit Tigers 1906 / 1912 - 1913 / 1918 / 1920 - 1921 / 1928 - 1931 / 1933 /
Boston Americans 1906 - 1907
Boston Red Sox 1908 / 1919 - 1933 / 1936 /
Chicago White Sox 1910 / 1914 / 1918 / 1921 / 1923 - 1924 / 1927 - 1935 / 1938 /
New York Yankees 1913 - 1915 / 1917 - 1918 / 1925 /
Cleveland Indians 1915 / 1924 - 1925 / 1927 - 1928 / 1933 /
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NATIONAL LEAGUE ONLY
1876 to 1900 - ( 30 ) Teams available PRE 1900
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Louisville Grays NL - 1876
NY Mutuals NL -1876
Cincinnatti Red Stockings NL - 1876 / 1877
Philadelphia Athletics NL - 1876
STL Brown Stockings 1877
Chicago White Sox 1877
Indianapolis Browns 1878
Milwaukee Grays 1878
Cleveland Blues 1879 / 1881 / 1884
Syracuse Stars 1879
Troy Trojans 1879 - 1882
Worcester Ruby Legs 1880 - 1882
Boston Red Caps 1880 - 1881
Buffalo Bisons 1880 / 1885
Cincinnatti Red SOX 1880 / 1891 / 1894
Detroit Wolverines 1881 / 1883 - 1885
NY Gothams 1883
Providence Grays 1885
Boston Beaneaters 1885 / 1900
STL Maroons 1885 -1886
Kansas City Cowboys 1886
Washington Senators 1886 - 1889 / 1892 - 1899
Pittsburgh Alleghenys 1887 - 1890
Indianapolis Hoosiers 1887 - 1889
Cleveland Spiders 1889 - 1891 / 1899
Brooklyn Bridegrooms 1891 / 1896 - 1898
Chicago Colts 1892 -1894 / 1897
Louisville Colonels 1892 - 1899
STL Browns 1892 - 1898
Baltimore Orioles 1892 - 1893
8/19/2017 6:57 AM (edited)
TOP PLAYERS and the SUB .500 teams they were on: -ELIMINATED TEAMS' Players will Re-Stock the DRAFT POOL.

WIS Salary adjustments

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Top 10 Risers
Rank Player Previous Salary Adjustment New Salary
1 1908 Addie Joss $18,708,640 $1,870,864 $20,579,504 - Cleveland Naps / Indians 1905 / 1909 - 1910
2 1901 Nap Lajoie $20,203,094 $1,747,334 $21,950,428 - Cleveland Naps / Indians 1905 / 1909 - 1910 / 1912 / 1914 - Philadelphia Athletics / Oakland A'S ( '54) 1915 - 1916
3 1927 Lou Gehrig $19,304,276 $1,620,659 $20,924,936 - New York Yankees 1925
4 1911 Ty Cobb $17,855,486 $1,616,954 $19,472,440 - Detroit Tigers 1928
5 1995 Greg Maddux $15,874,190 $1,587,419 $17,461,608 - Cubs 1986 - 1988 /1990 - 1992 / 2005 / 2006 SD 2008
6 1921 Babe Ruth $23,497,382 $1,547,971 $25,045,3521919 Boston Red Sox / 1925 NYY / 1935 Boston Braves
7 2000 Pedro Martinez $16,732,574 $1,496,930 $18,229,504 - LAD 1992 Expos 1995 / 1997
8 1923 Babe Ruth $22,587,954 $1,414,310 $24,002,264
9 1915 Pete Alexander $20,707,672 $1,184,855 $21,892,528 Phils/NL 1912/1914 Cubs 1920 - 1921 1925
10 1924 Rogers Hornsby $17,461,322 $1,130,727 $18,592,050 - STL 1915-1916 1918-1920 / 1924 STL Browns 1933/1937
Walter Johnson - 1907 - 1911 / / 1916 - 1917 / 1919 - 1920 / 1922 - 1923 Washington Senators
8/6/2017 12:51 PM (edited)
Theme #: 56425 Title: The ELIMINATION LEAGUE
Creator: retiredfart Date Created: 6/19/2017 11:04:00 AM
Used in a League: No Currently In Use: No (30 spots open)
Notes: MULTI-SEASON ( 8 ) SEASONS. League starts with ( 30 ) teams and eliminates the worst ( 2 ) or ( 4 ) teams each season until there are ( 12 ) teams standing in Season # 8. Start with a SUB .500 team - ( 1 ) DRAFT PICK and TWIST EACH SEASON. Season 1 by Owners Ratings then 2 - 8 by salary for draft order.
Owner Rules
Restriction Type: None
League Rules
Restriction Type: None Salary Cap: $255 Million
League Format: 1998-2000 (162 games, 30 teams, NL:5/5/6, AL:5/4/5, balanced, interleague)
Multi-Season League: Yes
Player Rules -- Position Players
Restriction Type: None
Player Rules -- Pitchers
Restriction Type: None
Ballpark Rules
Restriction Type: All Ballparks
Player Draft Rules
Draft Begins: 7/14/2017 Clone Usage: Do Not Allow Player Clones
Draft Order: MLB Rating Draft Style: Snake Format (1-30, 30-1)
Daily Start Time: 4:00 AM EST Daily End Time: 10:00 PM EST
Time Limit: 2 minutes [Time Limit Duration is Not Forced Between Owners, Faster Draft]
Player Replacement: Allow drafted players to be replaced by any player during draft.
Additional Settings: 5 picks per round starting in round 1
SiteMail Notification: No Email Notification: No
League Settings
Private League: No Designated Hitter: Both Leagues
Allow Waiver Wire: No Allow Trades: Yes
AAA Position Count: 60 AAA Pitcher Count: 20
AAA Player Quality: Way Above Average
Ticket has been sent to change to WAY BELOW AVERAGE
Fictitious AAA Names: Auto, Fictitious Names
Promote League Yes Transaction Deadline: No
Allow Injuries: Yes Minors Salary Cap: No
Randomly Align League: No Vetoes Needed: 6
Verify Before Schedule: Yes Cash Influx: None
Live - Limit Play: No Limit Live - Games Required: 0 Games Required for Playoffs
Live - Quick Start: No Live - Playoff Push: No
Any questions?
RF
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Draft ( 1 ) Hour scheduled picks for a SUB .500 team
15 picks per day = 2 days
PROXY LISTS - will be accepted by yours truly.
Too busy to be available for your scheduled hour in the draft?
Send a proxy pick list to me - AS MANY on the list as you are away from your turn.
8/6/2017 12:01 PM (edited)
1st of many questions?
Do you have a league number yet so I can see the League Summary.
That will probably answer quite a few.
6/19/2017 3:02 PM
A few questions I thought of...
-So I get that the original teams will be drafted as stated. Does that mean that in Season 2 the draft pool will be just from the eliminated teams and players that were cut? Or will there be others in the draft as well.

-If we twist a player one season can we twist the same player (and season) for the next season?

-If a player has an IR season do we skip over that season to go to Season 2 or would they be out of the league until they return?
6/20/2017 1:02 AM
crazyjoe

All players that are NOT on other teams already, WILL be AVAILABLE
for the Season ( 2 - 8 ) DRAFTS

TWISTS - Each Owner gets a TOTAL of:
( 7 ) TWISTS - ( 7 ) DRAFT PICKS and ( 7 ) CUTS
Owners may use them as they need to build a winner.

Injured reserve-
The players you acquire in the Season 1 Draft of your SUB .500 season team
REMAIN in that season - UNLESS
The owner twists or Drafts the player to a different season
OR Cuts or trades that player

Owners MAY - EACH SEASON ( 2 - 8 )
Twist ( 1 ) player from their roster
Draft ( 1 ) player - One of their own - BUT for a different season ( Theoretically a twist )
..........OR - ANY PLAYER - ANY SEASON - ( That is NOT on a roster with a different owner )
Cut ( 1 ) PLAYER from his roster to make room for the Drafted player
..........OR - NO CUT if Drafting a player already on his roster from a different season.
6/20/2017 11:09 AM
What about guys with IR years in the middle of their career? Do they skip over the IR seasons when we progress from season 1 to 2 to 3 etc...
6/20/2017 11:27 AM
There is no progression - all players from your sub .500 team, and all the players that you draft, will use the same season for ALL 8 years(unless you twist them).
6/20/2017 11:40 AM
Thanks grayfoxx - Interested?

TWIST OR DRAFT.
Owners will have the choice - to either:
During the ( 1 ) player each season draft round
Draft a player already on their team but, from a different season ( theoretically a twist )
But then NOT CUT a player.
OR
Cut a player from their roster
and draft from the draft pool any player available
6/20/2017 12:12 PM (edited)
ALL players (not already on teams) are available every year - but you are only going to draft ONE each year.
For season 2 you could draft John Clarkson, for season 3 you could draft Silver King, for season 4 you could draft Ed Morris......... that is assuming none of them are already in the league.

The draft talked about for season 1 is the draft of sub.500 teams.

There is NO IR - you use the same season of each player every year.
6/20/2017 3:36 PM
RF I will be entering 2 teams after my 7/14 results to see if I get more credits to put towards a 6 pack
I will enter sooner if necessary.
6/21/2017 9:45 AM
My 2 are in.
Any owner that loves stats to check out season by season
RF is the man.
The league I am in now is 13 Seasons and there are like 8 threads in our forum just for stats

Great founder in RF and should be a real fun league.
7/21/2017 12:44 PM (edited)
Alrighty then RF. I'm expecting another great league theme from you.
So far, I've been 100% satisfied.
Even when I don't understand your concept at first, you always take the time to make it perfectly clear,
By the time we get started.

I've entered my 2 cents or should I say 2 teams and I'm ready to rock and roll.
8/4/2017 10:36 AM
Much appreciated OHmorrison.
I hope we can FILL this league, we need ( 30 ) Teams to get going.
13 IN and 17 to go, I don't know if we can do it.

I MAY have to offer some Gift Certificates as prizes for the Season 8 Playoff teams

Any one know what the Founders Fees are:
.....Team Owners...........Founders Fee
1 ( 30 Team League ) - $ 16.19
2 ( 28 Team League )
3 ( 26 Team League )
4 ( 24 Team League )
5 ( 20 Team League )
6 ( 18 Team League )
7 ( 16 Team League ) - $ 8.63
8 ( 12 Team League )
8/5/2017 12:21 PM (edited)
So if you win the World Series in Season 1 you're exempt from elimination forever, or only just exempt in Season 2?

BTW the founder's credit for a 16 team league is $8.63.
8/5/2017 10:32 AM (edited)
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