1985 Dodgers TAKEN; Franchise With Farm System Topic

I'll get more details posted when I can, but a loaded LA Dodgers franchise is available in the Franchise With Farm System league, going into 1985. I'll paste below how the current roster projects to next season (1985). The team gets 25 keepers, but that includes any rookies from the real-life 1985 Dodgers that you want to keep (Mariano Duncan, Sid Bream, and Dennis Powell).

This franchise has an awesome pitching staff, and a solid lineup anchored by Pedro Guerrero's .999 OPS season. Four starting pitchers with WHIPs of 1.15 or lower, two good closers, and big seasons ahead for the likes of Orel Hershiser, Dave Stewart, and Bob Welch.

Player SN T GP GS W L SV IP BFP H ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA HBP WP BK
Valenzuela, Fernando 1985 L 35 35 17 10 0 273.0 1109 211 74 14 101 208 .214 1.15 2.45 1 10 1
Hough, Charlie 1985 R 34 34 14 16 0 252.0 1024 199 93 23 84 142 .215 1.12 3.31 7 11 3
Hershiser, Orel 1985 R 36 34 19 3 0 240.0 953 179 54 8 68 157 .206 1.03 2.03 6 5 0
Rhoden, Rick 1985 R 35 35 10 15 0 215.0 950 256 107 18 69 129 .296 1.52 4.47 6 8 3
Welch, Bob 1985 R 23 23 14 4 0 168.0 675 141 43 16 35 96 .225 1.05 2.31 6 7 4
Sutcliffe, Rick 1985 R 20 20 8 8 0 131.0 552 120 46 12 44 103 .240 1.25 3.18 3 6 0
Niedenfuer, Tom 1985 R 64 0 7 9 19 107.0 415 86 32 6 24 102 .223 1.04 2.71 1 0 0
Aase, Don 1985 R 54 0 10 6 14 89.0 368 84 37 6 35 67 .258 1.34 3.78 1 0 1
Stewart, Dave 1985 R 46 5 0 6 4 87.0 385 92 52 13 41 66 .273 1.54 5.46 2 7 1
Howell, Ken 1985 R 56 0 4 7 12 86.0 356 66 36 8 35 85 .208 1.17 3.77 0 4 2
Gossage, Rich 1985 R 50 0 5 3 26 79.0 308 64 16 1 17 52 .226 1.03 1.82 1 0 0
Totals -- -- 453 186 108 87 75 1,727.0 7095 1498 590 125 553 1207 .234 1.19 3.07 34 58 15


Player SN B G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO HBP SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS PA SF SH
Garvey, Steve 1985 R 162 654 80 184 34 6 17 81 35 67 3 0 0 .281 .318 .430 .748 699 6 1
Hayes, Von 1985 L 152 570 76 150 30 4 13 70 61 99 0 21 8 .263 .332 .398 .731 637 4 2
Marshall, Mike 1985 R 135 518 72 152 27 2 28 95 37 137 3 3 10 .293 .342 .515 .857 564 4 2
Cey, Ron 1985 R 146 504 64 117 18 2 22 63 58 107 4 1 1 .232 .316 .408 .724 568 2 0
Lacy, Lee 1985 R 122 496 69 145 22 4 9 48 39 96 2 10 3 .293 .343 .409 .752 544 6 1
Sax, Steve 1985 R 136 488 62 136 8 4 1 42 54 43 3 27 11 .279 .352 .318 .670 551 3 3
Guerrero, Pedro 1985 R 137 487 99 156 22 2 33 87 83 68 6 12 4 .320 .422 .577 .999 581 5 0
Scioscia, Mike 1985 L 141 429 47 127 26 3 7 53 77 21 5 3 3 .296 .407 .420 .826 525 3 11
Law, Rudy 1985 L 125 390 62 101 21 6 4 36 27 40 3 29 6 .259 .311 .374 .686 427 1 6
Baker, Dusty 1985 R 111 343 48 92 15 1 14 52 50 47 0 2 1 .268 .359 .440 .799 396 3 0
Hassey, Ron 1985 L 93 269 31 79 16 1 13 42 28 21 3 0 0 .296 .369 .509 .878 300 0 0
Anderson, Dave 1985 R 77 221 24 44 6 0 4 18 35 42 1 5 4 .199 .310 .281 .591 262 1 4
Russell, Bill 1985 R 76 169 19 44 6 1 0 13 18 9 1 4 0 .260 .333 .308 .641 192 1 3
Nixon, Otis 1985 S 104 162 34 38 4 0 3 9 8 27 0 20 11 .235 .271 .315 .585 174 0 4
Valenzuela, Fernando 1985 L 35 97 7 21 2 0 1 7 0 9 0 0 1 .216 .214 .268 .482 103 1 5
Hershiser, Orel 1985 R 36 76 5 15 1 0 0 4 4 20 1 1 0 .197 .247 .211 .457 91 0 10
Rhoden, Rick 1985 R 35 75 2 14 3 0 0 6 2 7 0 0 0 .189 .211 .230 .440 79 0 2
Welch, Bob 1985 R 23 50 4 9 1 0 0 4 3 13 0 0 0 .180 .226 .200 .426 60 0 7
Sutcliffe, Rick 1985 L 20 44 4 10 0 0 1 3 2 10 0 0 0 .233 .261 .302 .563 49 1 2
Gossage, Rich 1985 R 50 11 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 5 0 0 0 .000 .154 .000 .154 13 0 0
Niedenfuer, Tom 1985 R 64 9 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 .111 .111 .111 .222 10 0 1
Howell, Ken 1985 R 56 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 4 0 0
Pitcher Totals -- -- 319 366 23 70 7 0 2 24 13 69 1 1 1 .191 .220 .227 .447 409 2 27
Hitter Totals -- -- 1717 5700 787 1565 255 36 168 709 610 824 34 137 62 .275 .346 .420 .766 6420 39 37
Totals -- -- 2036 6066 810 1635 262 36 170 733 623 893 35 138 63 .270 .339 .409 .748 6829 41 64

We're 104 games into the 1984 season now. Draft begins August 7. Sitemail me if interested.
7/19/2017 1:21 AM (edited)
Being a long time Dodgers fan I'll take them if available.
7/20/2017 11:35 PM
Here are the league rules, pasted from an earlier thread and edited with the revisions:

League Rules:

Concept: Start with 20 of the real franchises and their 1977 rosters. In subsequent seasons, each franchise gets the rookies who really came up with that team. For example, Oakland gets Dwayne Murphy and others in 1978, Rickey Henderson and others in 1979, etc, eventually getting McGwire and Canseco... The rookies are assigned based on their first team during their first WIS-eligible season. This is a WIS version of mimicking the real-life farm systems for each franchise.

A player's WIS rookie season defines his first team. That makes it easier to identify the rookies, and also more likely to put a player on the team he was associated with for more of his career. {EDIT: Let's call this the Ryne Sandberg Rule, since he is a good example. Sandberg will belong to the Chicago Cubs, because his first season in WIS was with the Cubs (1982). His 13 games with the Phillies in 1981 do not affect this, since he does not have a WIS entry from 1981. If a player splits his WIS rookie season between two or more teams, he belongs to the franchise that he played his first game with during that WIS rookie season.}

Once a player belongs to a franchise, he stays with that franchise until being traded (in the sim) or cut... it is up to the owners here to be better general managers than their real-life counterparts.

Rookie Drafts: For the six franchises that are not claimed in 1977 (Padres, Giants, Indians, Blue Jays, Yankees, Brewers), their rookies are draft eligible. Obviously the rookie draft will never be very deep, since the rookies will only come from six franchises until the expansions of 1993 and beyond. Rookie draft order will be set by your franchise's sim winning percentage compared to its real-life winning percentage. If your team over-performs compared to real-life, it gets rewarded with better draft position. This should discourage tanking. Playoff teams drop to the bottom four spots of the draft order. {EDIT: Spots 1-16 in the draft are now serpentine, so whoever drafts #1 in the 1st round (and all odd numbered rounds) drafts #16 in the second (and even numbered) rounds. 17-20 remain the same, with the playoff teams, in each round.}

Keepers / Waivers: I'm thinking let everyone keep up to 25 players, using real players for AAA. The catch is that any player who is not on injured reserve (missing from the WIS database for that season) has to appear in at least 5 of your games, or he will be waived and put into the draft pool. So if a good prospect has a lousy season, you can't just park him in AAA the entire season… he has to at least make a few appearances. But it is up to individual owners to police this - if it is your turn to draft and you see that Cincinnati didn't let that crappy young 1970's Mario Soto into 5 or more games, go ahead and draft him! You get rewarded for doing your homework and finding a steal. {Edit: The 25 keeper limit includes rookies for the following season. If you are too late posting keepers, they will be assigned based on your player usage in the previous season, so we can get on with the draft. In that case, your keepers will be all your franchise's new rookies, and your returning players with the most (PA+IP) in the current (or recently concluded) sim season.}
{EDIT: If a team has multiple players who failed to get in five games but are listed as keepers, the owner can use his 1st round draft pick to draft them all. But he does have to wait his turn in the draft, hoping no one else drafts one of them first. }


Since there are not many quality players to choose from in each year's draft, the off-season should move very quickly… if you miss your time slot for the draft, we'll move on to the next owner, and you probably won't be missing out on a player who is worth complaining about anyway. The idea for this league came partly from frustration waiting for a normal progressive to move from season to season, and partly from realizing that sometimes life just gets in the way of doing these drafts.

Extra Pitching: One quirk I would like to include, but other owners can vote this down if it is too unpopular… each team will get one additional pitcher per season, randomly drawn from a pool of moderate-quality pre-1960 pitchers with around 100 IP and around $2.5-3.0 M salaries. The purpose is to bolster the balance of pitching versus offense, since all progressives I've been in have had ridiculous offensive stats. This gives every team one more competent pitcher for the bullpen, or a spot starter, but not someone you would build a team around. {EDIT: I've gradually lowered the quality of these pitchers, to around 100-120 IP and ~$2 M salary. Most teams don't even use them. I generally use them in Long B or Mopup reliever roles}

Hall of Fame: If enough owners are interested, we'll cast Hall of Fame ballots for players whose WIS careers have recently ended. I'll try to post career stats for candidates, merging pre-1977 real-life with the progressive's stats. But anyone can nominate a player.

Miscellaneous
- Four 5-team divisions, aligned similar to real life as much as possible.
- No salary cap
- No moving teams / ballparks until after 5 seasons (1981). After that, you can use your 1st round rookie draft pick to move to an available ballpark. But that only changes your ballpark, not your franchise name and available rookies. For example, if no one takes the NY Yankees when the league gets started, then someone can eventually move their franchise to Yankee Stadium. The Boston Red Sox could become the New York Red Sox (imagine that!), with Boggs, Clemens, etc coming up in the farm system. A team that has moved cannot move again for at least 5 seasons.
- DH in AL only
- Trades are mostly unrestricted, but subject to veto by 6 owners. Limit on trading draft picks or rookies too far out in the future - you can't trade a 1983 rookie or draft pick until the 1981 season ends.
- For players who missed 1977 in WIS, but were not rookies when they returned later, they go into the rookie draft pool when they return. They do not belong to a team first.
7/21/2017 12:22 AM
1985 Dodgers TAKEN; Franchise With Farm System Topic

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