Posted by tdoak on 7/22/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):
"This draft is HARD. Boxscores are OK if you can twist the players, but when they need to be used in that season... That being said, this was super fun."

Indeed. Pitching is at a premium when you can't twist your pitchers, so many teams will be lacking studs ... but that can still be competitive in a $70m league. That's also why I've liberalized the use of 200k players / AAA replacements to anyone who shows up in the box scores or rosters. Granted, average AAA pitching doesn't get you a lot of quality INNINGS -- maybe 50 or 60 per player -- but they will be a big help here.

Oh GRRR. I think I may have missed that rule. So if someone shows up in a box score but doesn't have an eligible SIM season that year, you can use a 200k replacement/AAA call-up? This may mean back to the drawing board...

Posted by dlchow on 7/22/2017 1:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tdoak on 7/22/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):
"This draft is HARD. Boxscores are OK if you can twist the players, but when they need to be used in that season... That being said, this was super fun."

Indeed. Pitching is at a premium when you can't twist your pitchers, so many teams will be lacking studs ... but that can still be competitive in a $70m league. That's also why I've liberalized the use of 200k players / AAA replacements to anyone who shows up in the box scores or rosters. Granted, average AAA pitching doesn't get you a lot of quality INNINGS -- maybe 50 or 60 per player -- but they will be a big help here.

Oh GRRR. I think I may have missed that rule. So if someone shows up in a box score but doesn't have an eligible SIM season that year, you can use a 200k replacement/AAA call-up? This may mean back to the drawing board...

Yes, that's right. The scrubs shall lead you. You can have as many as 6 AAA players and 4 AAA pitchers as replacements, but ONLY to the extent that you have non-sim players on your 25-man roster to send down. Sometimes the box scores give them to you, sometimes not.

All right, deleting my posted roster and playing with it some more. Thanks.

Do the AAA players replacing non-sim seasons from boxscores also need to match position/handedness? Or does that matching only apply to the Negro Leaguer? e.g. if I have a RH RP in the boxscore who doesn't have a SIM season, can I pick a LH RP from AAA?

Posted by dlchow on 7/22/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
All right, deleting my posted roster and playing with it some more. Thanks.

Do the AAA players replacing non-sim seasons from boxscores also need to match position/handedness? Or does that matching only apply to the Negro Leaguer? e.g. if I have a RH RP in the boxscore who doesn't have a SIM season, can I pick a LH RP from AAA?

They should all match. If your non-sim player was a LH RP, that's what your AAA replacement should be. [The 200k player doesn't matter, since he will be sent down on Opening Day and not used.]

Likewise, your AAA replacement should not play any positions that your non-sim player didn't play. If your man played all the middle infield positions, you can select a replacement who did; but if he only played 2B, then you should limit your choices to those who only played 2B. You can play him out of position if you want, but you shouldn't draft a guy with extra positions.

OK I'm back. This was even more fun than before, and even HARDER. Took me many hours to figure out this puzzle, and my team probably still sucks.

1) P Al Schacht 1919-21
1920 Al Schacht (Senators)
1920 Walter Johnson (Senators)

2) Chicago Cubs @ Brooklyn Robins, 8/10/1922
1922 Jim Murray (Robins, LH RP)(AAA Eddie Guardado, 200K placeholder Dave Leiper)
1922 Cliff Heathcote (Cubs)

3) 2003 NLDS Game 5, Cubs @ Braves, 10/5/2003
2003 Kerry Wood (Cubs)
2003 Will Cunnane (Braves, RH RP)(AAA Jonathan Broxton, 200K placeholder Elmer Riddle)

4) Milwaukee Brewers @ Atlanta Braves, 9/23/2007
2007 Corky Miller (Braves, C right)(AAA Carlos Ruiz, 200K placeholder Koyie Hill)
2007 Royce Ring (Braves, LH RP)(AAA Brian Fuentes, 200K placeholder Jeremy Horst)

5) New York Mets @ Philadelphia Phillies, 4/17/2007
2007 Ryan Howard (Phillies)
2007 Damion Easley (Mets)

6) 1970 New York Yankees Roster
1970 Jack Aker (Yankees)
1970 Roy White (Yankees)

7) Pittsburgh Pirates @ Chicago Cubs, 9/12/1973
1973 Ron Santo (Cubs)
1973 Pete LaCock (Cubs, OF/1B left)(AAA Ron Fairly, 200K placeholder Brock Davis)

8) Boston Red Sox @ Baltimore Orioles, 9/23/1991
1991 Wayne Housie (Red Sox, OF switch) (AAA Carl Everett, 200K placeholder Jerry Mumphrey)
1991 Bob Zupcic (Red Sox, OF right) (AAA Alex Ochoa, 200K placeholder Mike Brown)

9) P Fred Talbot 1963-70
1964 Fred Talbot (White Sox)
1964 Gary Peters (White Sox)

10) Boston Red Sox @ Cleveland Indians, 7/21/1998, first game of doubleheader
1998 Pedro Martinez (Red Sox)
1998 Nomar Garciaparra (Red Sox)

11) Minnesota Twins @ Texas Rangers, 9/13/1997
1997 Javier Valentin (Twins, C/1B switch) (AAA Matt Wieters, 200K placeholder Danny Walton)
1997 Damian Miller (Twins)

12) Cleveland Indians @ Minnesota Twins, 6/5/1966
1966 Sonny Siebert (Indians)
1966 Dave Boswell (Twins)

Wild Card Negro Leaguer:
George "Tubby" Scales (2B but also other IF and OF postions, right)(AAA Luis A. Gonzalez, 200K placeholder Damaso Garcia)
http://coe.k-state.edu/annex/nlbemuseum/history/players/scales.html

A team with Walter Johnson and Pedro Martinez probably isn't going to suck too bad, dlchow. My club has Jurickson Profar platooning at 2B.

Give me a whirl

Posted by tdoak on 7/22/2017 1:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dlchow on 7/22/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
All right, deleting my posted roster and playing with it some more. Thanks.

Do the AAA players replacing non-sim seasons from boxscores also need to match position/handedness? Or does that matching only apply to the Negro Leaguer? e.g. if I have a RH RP in the boxscore who doesn't have a SIM season, can I pick a LH RP from AAA?

They should all match. If your non-sim player was a LH RP, that's what your AAA replacement should be. [The 200k player doesn't matter, since he will be sent down on Opening Day and not used.]

Likewise, your AAA replacement should not play any positions that your non-sim player didn't play. If your man played all the middle infield positions, you can select a replacement who did; but if he only played 2B, then you should limit your choices to those who only played 2B. You can play him out of position if you want, but you shouldn't draft a guy with extra positions.

I need to go re-work my roster then. I was going on the assumption that I had to find players with real seasons...

I think it's worth the effort to look for players WITHOUT real seasons (in your boxscores). But what a pain in the *** that was.

daddyzander: Welcome aboard! Here are your 12 random pages:

1. P Jair Jurrjens 2007-14
2. 1979 Cleveland Indians Trades & Transactions [any two players listed on the page, in their 1979 season, whether they played for the Indians or were traded away ... so, conceivably, you could use two players traded for each other. But no non-sim players here!]
3. Cincinnati Reds @ New York Giants 9/17/1942
4. P Joe Sullivan 1935-41

5. OF Roy Foster 1970-72
6. 1972 Cleveland Indians Roster
7. 1945 Chicago Cubs Pitching Statistics
8. 1946 St. Louis Cardinals Roster

9. P Frank Lange 1910-13
10. Seattle Mariners @ Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 8/5/2011
11. 1981 Minnesota Twins Batting Orders [any two players who started a game, including any non-sim players listed; but no pitchers here]
12. P Bill Tremel 1954-56

Only two box scores in that one? Crazy!

Posted by dlchow on 7/23/2017 11:25:00 AM (view original):

Quote post by reddtrain on 7/23/2017 10:50:00 AM:

I need to go re-work my roster then. I was going on the assumption that I had to find players with real seasons...

I think it's worth the effort to look for players WITHOUT real seasons (in your boxscores). But what a pain in the *** that was.

I found one. (One!)

Now I have to figure out how to reconfigure my team without Carl Hubbell or Mel Ott.

There's a whole lotta fugly here...

1. Washington Senators Team History & Encyclopedia [this is the 1891-99 Senators - the default rule is that you may choose any player who shows up on that page, which in this case is limited to the top player by WAR in each season, and the All-Time Top 12 Players pictured, in any season with the franchise]
>>> 1896 Kip Selbach and 1898 Duke Farrell
2. New York Giants @ Boston Bees, 9/22/1940, 1st game of doubleheader
>>> Carl Hubbell and Mel Preibisch (non-sim RH OF - 1906 Jack Cameron as stand-in)
3. New York Yankees @ Chicago White Sox, 5/29/2002
>>> Magglio Ordonez and Damaso Marte
4. 1927 New York Yankees Batting Orders [that's a good draw, there!]
(This doesn't count against my salary cap, right? Ruth and Gehrig cost almost $36M combined)
>>> Pat Collins and Ray Morehart

5. P Dennis Tankersley 2002-04
>>> 2002 Tankersley and Ryan Klesko
6. Milwaukee Brewers @ Minnesota Twins, 7/12/1972
>>>Jerry Bell and Ron Clark
7. California Angels @ Toronto Blue Jays, 6/2/1981
>>> Luis Leal and Ken Macha
8. 3B-2B Randy Asadoor 1986
>>> Asadoor and Lance McCullers

9. Detroit Tigers @ St. Louis Browns 9/2/1933
>>> Bump Hadley and Billy Rogell
10. San Diego Padres @ Atlanta Braves 4/23/1989
>>> John Kruk and Dave Leiper
11. 2011 St. Louis Cardinals Lineups and Defense
>>> Kyle Lohse and Colby Rasmus
12. Detroit Tigers @ Kansas City Royals 8/1/1988
>>> Lou Whitaker and Kevin Seitzer

"Cannonball" Dick Redding stand-in: 1996 LaTroy Hawkins

Posted by tdoak on 7/23/2017 11:34:00 AM (view original):
daddyzander: Welcome aboard! Here are your 12 random pages:

1. P Jair Jurrjens 2007-14
2. 1979 Cleveland Indians Trades & Transactions [any two players listed on the page, in their 1979 season, whether they played for the Indians or were traded away ... so, conceivably, you could use two players traded for each other. But no non-sim players here!]
3. Cincinnati Reds @ New York Giants 9/17/1942
4. P Joe Sullivan 1935-41

5. OF Roy Foster 1970-72
6. 1972 Cleveland Indians Roster
7. 1945 Chicago Cubs Pitching Statistics
8. 1946 St. Louis Cardinals Roster

9. P Frank Lange 1910-13
10. Seattle Mariners @ Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 8/5/2011
11. 1981 Minnesota Twins Batting Orders [any two players who started a game, including any non-sim players listed; but no pitchers here]
12. P Bill Tremel 1954-56

Only two box scores in that one? Crazy!

2 boxes, 0 non sim players, but hey, I have 20mil of Ed Walsh available for 28.5% of my roster

I had 1927 Ruth and Gehrig available (combined cost: just under $36M), so I feel your pain.

I'll take a team, tdoak (with LHP Andy Cooper as my Negro League star).