I have a few questions about the impact of planning to redshirt a recruit:

1. Assume there are two teams pursuing a recruit and they are both equally well positioned - same O/D sets, success, distance, coaching tenure, etc. And both teams have put in equal recruiting effort (scholarship, HVs, CV, equal AP, etc.). So both teams would presumably show up as Very High with each having a 50% chance, right? If so, and one team then informed of a redshirt, what would the new odds be? In other words, how much of a hit do you take for the RS? Assume that the player doesn't have a preference for playing time.
2. Same question as above, but what if the player wants playing time?
3. What if you are the only team the player is considering, he wants playing time, and then you inform of RS. Will he still be considering you if you have enough recruiting effort invested?

1. Sometimes, when you inform of redshirt, they dump you.
2. That's probably the "sometimes" mentioned above.
3. See above.

Yep. That much I'm clear on.

1. It's significant. Something like a 3 HV penalty.
2.Even more.
3. Yes... I think, I have dropped to zero in this case but not always...I think.

Thanks Trenton. I love to RS when I can but there is so much less certainty in recruiting now that it's hard to know when you can get away with RS during recruiting. Of course you can try afterwards, but it's hard to keep a balanced team when you don't know who (if anyone) will accept after the fact. Just trying to rethink redshirting as a strategy in 3.0.

I have informed of RS and he had wants to play pref. He dropped to moderate but then after another cycle he was back up to VH and signed. Can't rememeber how much effort I put in but it wasn't mostly AP.

Was he a fr or juco, benis? The juco guys I have tried with have pretty much dropped to zero

Posted by Trentonjoe on 8/8/2017 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Was he a fr or juco, benis? The juco guys I have tried with have pretty much dropped to zero

It was a Juco

Also it was D1 to D1. I'd imagine it's probably going to take more to keep a higher level player satisfied with a RS.

i believe that players vary in the degree to which inform of RS has a negative effect - some negative for all - big or very big for some