You could pretend that they were hit with lack of institutional control and lost some scholarships/had transfers.

This is why changing job is hell.

But what are the potentials?

"working as intended"

I like this example better:

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/Default.aspx?tid=3268

Its crazy how fast teams go downhill.

Exhibit #300 why they should have fixed jobs before recruiting. This trend among power conference schools is virtually non existent if promotions are loosened up.

Posted by mullycj on 8/16/2017 4:02:00 PM (view original):
of the shtty implementation of 3.0.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/Roster.aspx?tid=5401

This is a joke.... ^^

Yr.	Pos.	A	SPD	REB	DE	BLK	LP	PE	BH	P	WE	ST	DU	FT	TOT
Robert Foster	Sr.	C	46	36	92	48	88	77	21	36	22	54	86	75	C	681
James Peterson	Sr.	PF	53	32	77	62	66	82	51	27	36	59	75	34	C-	654
Bobbie Khalil	Fr.	C	33	17	64	14	72	61	13	38	29	84	62	32	C	519
Ethan Rudd	So.	PF	54	43	63	52	60	52	13	39	29	16	61	36	B-	518
Hugh Hickey	Sr.	PG	60	59	1	64	2	7	63	55	65	12	50	77	C+	515
George Halsey	Fr.	SG	45	53	14	23	12	12	49	50	29	49	67	46	D-	449
Eddie Brown	Fr.	SG	29	37	11	5	26	31	32	40	28	71	65	62	C+	437
Christopher Pierce	Fr.	SG	38	63	14	8	20	3	52	29	30	50	65	54	D-	426
Burton Warren	Fr.	PG	42	36	22	8	25	1	42	33	32	48	78	35	C	402
Ronald Roach	Fr.	PG	10	46	11	6	2	1	39	50	45	65	69	47	C	391
Brian Creasman	Fr.	SF	22	31	26	24	38	33	11	21	24	62	55	26	C	373
Alvin Bryant	Fr.	SF	24	45	22	27	7	33	18	28	31	30	64	42	B	371
Averages	-	-	38	42	35	28	35	33	34	37	33	50	66	47	C	478

Applied for the job but regardless of baseline prestige its like you are building an expansion team in the Big 10 within Smith. Its one of the most filled if not the most filled conference within D1 Smith. Your easily struggling for a winning season for 2-3 seasons. I'd like to say im shocked that WIS didn't listen to the fanbase on what they wanted changed but I'm really not shocked...

3.0 and the two-stage recruiting has made job changes way harder - in general. Arrive in team for near hopeless 2nd stage

The interaction between jobs process and recruiting process was not fully considered. Big mistake for long term of product.

Dialing down job qualifications for a move a notch or two would have been smart. But it aint looking like it will happen.

This is a D1 Big 10 school? What?

What is your opinion on the best way to rebuild these programs. Obviously, your prestige is low so it is difficult to go all in on top recruits is difficult.

So you just build slowly for 4-6 seasons? Really difficult against established teams in big conferences.

Posted by fd343ny on 8/16/2017 5:18:00 PM (view original):
3.0 and the two-stage recruiting has made job changes way harder - in general. Arrive in team for near hopeless 2nd stage

The interaction between jobs process and recruiting process was not fully considered. Big mistake for long term of product.

Dialing down job qualifications for a move a notch or two would have been smart. But it aint looking like it will happen.

They really dropped the ball with this. Sad!

Posted by skinndogg on 8/16/2017 5:40:00 PM (view original):
What is your opinion on the best way to rebuild these programs. Obviously, your prestige is low so it is difficult to go all in on top recruits is difficult.

So you just build slowly for 4-6 seasons? Really difficult against established teams in big conferences.

For sure. Just like you do for MID-major schools.

What's yer point? That pajamainc ran a team into the ground? That sim teams aren't very good? You got something against THE Ohio State University? None of this is news.