almost every time I open one of bronxcheer's message, I am sorry I did.

That makes you like the real life coyote, you never learn, dumbdumb

This is kinda funny:

On the subject of erecting statues to Confederate "war heroes", none other than Robert E. Lee wrote, "As regards the erection of such a monument as is contemplated, my conviction is, that however grateful it would be to the feelings of the South, the attempt ... would have the effect of ... continuing, if not adding to, the difficulties under which the Southern people labour."

First, it's interesting to know that Lee may have been Canadian, given his inclusion of the extraneous and totally unnecessary letter "u" in "labor".

Second, it's funny to think that all the uproar today is about statues that one of the people in question didn't even want, and thought would eventually be a bad idea.

The average Confederate Statue was built 77 years after the Civil War ended

And was personally morally opposed to slavery. That's my understanding of history. Almost all the Generals in the Civil War (both sides) came from a short period of West Point graduating classes and almost all were acquainted with one another. For example Custer had many friends among the CSA military officers. No telling what all went into each of the individual's decisions as to which side to join....... I believe the fact that the South was his homeland had (perhaps) the most influence on Lee himself.

Posted by bronxcheer on 8/17/2017 4:18:00 PM (view original):
The average Confederate Statue was built 77 years after the Civil War ended

What about the above average statues?

What about them?? It should be up to the local populace/area that erected the statue. Do they like it? Take pride in it?? Or not?? State's rights, or more precisely local "district/area" rights. I maybe should have a say so about Poncho Villa's statue (in Tucson) but the statues in Baltimore???? Clearly not my business.

Tear it down.Nazi sympathizer!

Posted by laramiebob on 8/17/2017 4:31:00 PM (view original):
What about them?? It should be up to the local populace/area that erected the statue. Do they like it? Take pride in it?? Or not?? State's rights, or more precisely local "district/area" rights. I maybe should have a say so about Poncho Villa's statue (in Tucson) but the statues in Baltimore???? Clearly not my business.

The problem, in my mind, is that we're becoming a society that removes ANYTHING that ANYONE MIGHT find offensive.

As I said, Sherman was a terrible human being. I've never considered statues monuments of honor. Just historical figures. We know my distaste for Lincoln. Sherman is on the same level. I get the statue for Lincoln. But no way in hell should Sherman have a statue honoring him.

Should I start a petition demanding it's removal? It seems, if I got a few signatures, it could happen.

What about Sheridan, Sherman's henchman?

Posted by laramiebob on 8/17/2017 4:19:00 PM (view original):
And was personally morally opposed to slavery. That's my understanding of history. Almost all the Generals in the Civil War (both sides) came from a short period of West Point graduating classes and almost all were acquainted with one another. For example Custer had many friends among the CSA military officers. No telling what all went into each of the individual's decisions as to which side to join....... I believe the fact that the South was his homeland had (perhaps) the most influence on Lee himself.

Most had already SERVED together in the war with Mexico.

Posted by Benis on 8/17/2017 5:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 8/17/2017 4:19:00 PM (view original):
And was personally morally opposed to slavery. That's my understanding of history. Almost all the Generals in the Civil War (both sides) came from a short period of West Point graduating classes and almost all were acquainted with one another. For example Custer had many friends among the CSA military officers. No telling what all went into each of the individual's decisions as to which side to join....... I believe the fact that the South was his homeland had (perhaps) the most influence on Lee himself.

Most had already SERVED together in the war with Mexico.

Lee's decision was based solely on his state, Virginia. Not the South as a whole

Can I suggest that we replace all statues and monuments for CSA people with this:

Posted by bronxcheer on 8/17/2017 5:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 8/17/2017 5:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 8/17/2017 4:19:00 PM (view original):
And was personally morally opposed to slavery. That's my understanding of history. Almost all the Generals in the Civil War (both sides) came from a short period of West Point graduating classes and almost all were acquainted with one another. For example Custer had many friends among the CSA military officers. No telling what all went into each of the individual's decisions as to which side to join....... I believe the fact that the South was his homeland had (perhaps) the most influence on Lee himself.

Most had already SERVED together in the war with Mexico.

Lee's decision was based solely on his state, Virginia. Not the South as a whole

Correct.