Posted by Jtpsops on 10/11/2017 9:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dahsdebater on 10/11/2017 8:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Jtpsops on 10/11/2017 7:00:00 PM (view original):
No one is making it out to be a team award - that's all you and BL. The production of a player who's contributions get his team to the playoffs is more valuable than the equal/slightly greater production of a hitter who's team still loses with him. Not sure why you can't grasp that.
Using 2017 specifically, Joey Votto has vetoed trades in the last couple years. It's not like anyone is forcing him to stay with a ****** team - he's chosen to be there.
You're contradicting yourself.
If a player effectively gets bonus points for playing on a playoff team, it's moving toward being a team award. There's no way you can talk your way around that. You're giving credit for being on a better team. It's not an individual award at that point.
Nope. I’m factoring in contributions to team success.
Player A: .330/.420/.515 Team - 70-92
Player B: .320/.415/.500 Team - 88-74 (won WC by 1 game)
Player C: .330/.435/.485. Team - 97-65 (won division by 10 games)
Player C has the best team but I’d vote for Player B.
So they key to being the MVP is finding teammates who are good but not
too good? And
that doesn't bother you?
Take a step back for a moment and ask yourself this question. Ignore the definition of valuable. Ignore the name of the award. This is the most prestigious award given in Major League Baseball. Would you rather see it given to the player who did the most positive things on the field, or the player whose team won 88 games?
Player A in the scenario above has clearly had the best hitting season. If we assume baserunning and defense are equal, he had the best year. He worked hard for decades of his life to achieve that. Would you really rather reward Player B for being on a team that happened to be about a .500 team without him than reward Player A for all of his effort to make himself the best player in the league this year? Again, ignore the name of the award and any semantics. What do you think deserves to be rewarded with the most sought-after player award in baseball?